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To: Clemenza
What is this guy smoking? Has he ever been to a pizzeria, the kitchen of a restaurant (any cuisine) or seen who does the landscaping in suburbia in the downstate area? Mostly Mexicans and Ecuadorians!

Maybe the answer to your question is in the first sentence of the article. The sentence right before the one you chose to quote.

For its size, New York gets a disproportionately low number of illegal aliens.

He never said there aren't illegal aliens in New York. He said there were proportionally less in New York than in other states.

That doesn't mean that New York doesn't have illegal aliens, it just means that they have less than other parts of the country.

However, the legislature and the governor appear to be determined to change that and encourage even more illegal aliens to come to New York state.

What he was telling you is that it is likely to be getting worse soon, so if you think it is bad now, you're likely going to be even less happy with the situation in the not so distant future.

12 posted on 09/24/2007 8:01:33 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: untrained skeptic
People see Manhattan's wealth, but forget that the schlepps (largely immigrant, often illegal) go home to prewar walkups in Queens and the Bronx, where they pay $1500 to share a 1 bedroom with five of their buddies.

I used to live across from a Pizzeria in the Bronx where the main baker was a guy from Puebla. He told me that his two brothers had to get out of New York because the rents were too high relative to the income they received. By comparison, getting a rental in Texas, Arizona, or the inland empire of CA (to say nothing of dixie) are quite a bargain.

DOWNSTATE NY is NO place to be poor, legal or illegal, immigrant or native born. The once generous bennies of the Rockefeller/Lindsay era (both RINOs, btw) went largely bye-bye thanks first to the austerity of the Carey years (in response to the near bankruptcy of the city) and the welfare reform of the 90s. Unfortunatly, the state likes to hand out medicaid and SCHIPP like Jesus handed out loaves. Nevertheless, the high cost of living, and the growing reluctance of landlords to take section 8 mean that the poor will continue to live a miserable existence or move upstate or the Pennsylvania (which many of the native born underclass have been doing for 15-20 years).

20 posted on 09/24/2007 8:34:42 AM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: untrained skeptic

Interstingly enough, my current state of New Jersey is in the top five in terms of foreign born, but also has the wealthiest immigrant population of any state in the union. We do get the illegals, but we get ALOT of Indian (largest concentration in the US in my part of the state), Koreans, and South American legals as well.


21 posted on 09/24/2007 8:37:01 AM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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