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To: dooltotheend
At the heart of this process are genes. If a person of one sex finds him or her self attracted to the same sex there is something terribly wrong with that person’s genetic makeup.

The problem with your statement above is that no credible scientist nor any scientific study supports your statement. On what do you base the above statement?

A couple of years ago I was reading the summary of a study from a scientist who was a homosexual. In the summary he emphasized that no study to date supported the claim homosexuals are born that way and he further stated he didn't think any further studies would support the claim that homosexuals are born that way.

Scientists can make such statements because all the evidence points to environment being the major factor for same sex attraction. Besides that, ex-gays exist and their numbers continue to grow. We have to consider all the evidence and all the evidence points to the fluidity of sexuality.

28 posted on 09/26/2007 8:01:53 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: scripter

In my view gays are conflicted as to how they want to explain their situation. There are those gays who want to believe they have “chosen” their sexual preferenence. They simply cannot accept that there is something “wrong” with them. There is another group that accepts their “differentness”, but thinks it is somehow morally equivalent to heterosexuallity. There is the bisexual group. Some in this group may benefit from therapy that focuses their sexual identity one way or the other. Then there is the last and, I believe, largest group. People in this group understand and accept their situation. They may or not find a life partner. But either way, they keep their sexual identity to themselves and outwardly live a mainstream life. They do not particpate in so-called Gay Pride parades tongue kissing and groping each other in public.

Certainly abusive childhoods can contribute to homosexuality—as well as criminality. But I suspect the vast number of people with such a back ground grow up to be productive and loving people.

Do you also believe that people born with missing limbs, congenital defects or whatever are only products of their environments? Sometimes things just go wrong. It’s nobody’s fault. It’s not even fair or unfair. It just is. To pretend otherwise is self delusional.

I hear people say that God doesn’t create bad people. Of course he doesn’t. After Adam and Eve he stopped people creation. At times in his life he intervened in some peoples lives to fix their particular problem. But he didn’t do it to make them well so much as he did it to prove he was who he said he was. We call these illuminating moments miracles.

Someone wrote me that abusive childhoods [environment] produces homosexuals. That’s hogwash. One is or is not homosexual. And please spare me the “scientific study” ploy. Studies can be made to demonstrate any desired premise. It is “junk” science, afterall, that is creating this whole global warming nonsense. Oh, I forgot, the zealots who buy into this lie are now calling it climate change.

I don’t need a scientific study to conclude that homosexual people have a problem with they’re wiring. Nature is organized specifically for procreation. Certainly their are aberrations out there, but they are the exception—ergo aberration—not the rule.


31 posted on 10/01/2007 6:16:10 AM PDT by dooltotheend
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