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Immigration Issue Mismanaged, Expert Says
Madison.com ^ | September 26, 2007 | Pat Schneider

Posted on 09/26/2007 5:15:43 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

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1 posted on 09/26/2007 5:15:45 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I think I absolutely am going to barf.

urp...urp...


2 posted on 09/26/2007 5:18:39 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: rlmorel

Exactly.


3 posted on 09/26/2007 5:21:09 PM PDT by rottndog (Government is a necessary evil, but as with all evils, the less of it the better.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
"I think we're going to have to try to enforce our way out of the problem. And fail."

So according to this dickhead we have to allow the increasing drain on our resources.

4 posted on 09/26/2007 5:21:31 PM PDT by rocksblues (Just enforce the law!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Don’t we all get this? That once they are legal, they are no longer “low-wage” earners? I see unionization in their future a la UAW.

Lou Dobbs: We have NINE guest worker programs. Let’s use them if we need them.


5 posted on 09/26/2007 5:26:25 PM PDT by tennteacher (Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
It would help if this clown could get his facts right.
Despite the heat emanating from the current debate on immigration, the proportion of foreign-born residents today approximates those in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, before the Great Depression, War World II and Cold War spawned policies to restrict entry to the country, Johnson said.

The main immigration restrictions were implemented immediately after the First World War (1926 IIRC), although several groups were restricted before this. These restrictions were not eased untill after the Second World War.

6 posted on 09/26/2007 5:26:39 PM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion worth what you paid.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
What if, just what if our educational system actually educated our kids to fill those positions which require the "best and brightest."

What if, just what if we reformed our welfare system so that the legions of indolent parasites we have in this country would take what jobs there were or starve.

What if, just what if our elected representatives had some respect or even some compassion for the people who pay the freight in this country.

7 posted on 09/26/2007 5:28:14 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Hallelujah!!!
8 posted on 09/26/2007 5:31:54 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: VR-21

Your logical and well posted thought has NO PLACE IN THIS DEBATE, Sir! ;)

It’s just insane, isn’t it? Yet another result of socialists allowed to run wild due to spineless conservatives.

You’re right. Our “elected officials” stop listening to us the MINUTE they hit the Beltway. Grrrrrrrr!


9 posted on 09/26/2007 5:33:32 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I just did a little search on NewsMeat (campaign contributions; http://www.newsmeat.com/) for the people who serve on the board of “The Immigration Policy Center”.

I was soooo surprised at what I found.

Not.

All moonbats. The one in Texas gave to Republican candidates, but...Hutchison was one of them. Geez.


10 posted on 09/26/2007 5:33:47 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Lord, this man writes for ME!


11 posted on 09/26/2007 5:38:59 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: wtc911

PING! BABY! PING!


12 posted on 09/26/2007 5:53:19 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Immigration Issue Mismanaged, Expert Says

About 300 million experts here in the US alone.

13 posted on 09/26/2007 6:07:43 PM PDT by hschliemann
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
On one hand, immigrant workers are needed to fill low-paying jobs U.S. society little values; on the other, they are needed to fill high-tech jobs that fuel the innovation that made the United States a world leader, he said.

I've got some really nice black bulls, and that sentence is their waste.

14 posted on 09/26/2007 6:14:43 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Fraxinus
The "restrictions" mainly occurred in 1924, and knocked immigration down from around 1,000,000 per year to 300-400,000. The Depression and WW 2 made it either unattractive or impossible to get to the US. After WW 2, except for a big burst with refugees and war brides immediately after the war, we went back to the 300-400,000 per year -- there were no significant changes in the law until 1965, and no big rise in immigration, even counting illegals, until the 1975-85 period.

However, today's LEGAL immigration, at around 1,000,000 per year, is about the same, as a proportion of the total population, as the "restrictionist" period 1925-29.

Personally, I think we do need many immigrants, but we should make them bid for the right (in addition to whatever background, health, etc checks we want). Brain surgeons and opera stars would bid high. People who want to hire "cheap" gardeners would have to pay a stiff fee for the privilege. Either set a fee level, and see how many want to come at that level -- or set a number, and see what price clears the market. In either case, enforce the law, collect back taxes, and clear out those who won't comply.

15 posted on 09/26/2007 6:19:13 PM PDT by BohDaThone
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“The number of immigrants now entering the country, some 800,000 to 900,000 in 2006, is not keeping pace with the number of jobs created: some 2.6 million last year.”

I see, our population of 2??/3?? millions is not expected to create any net new workers on its own??? Wrong. In fact, with 301 million people, our population does add 2.6 million people a year, on its own.

In fact current immigration levels are higher than “keeping pace” and, if just to be “keeping pace” could be slightly lower. Net U.S. natural population growth is about 2 million (births minus deaths), and with our demographics we are graduating more than 2.6 million high school seniors a year (that does not count the dropouts). http://www.collegeboard.com/highered/res/hel/hel.html#grads


16 posted on 09/26/2007 6:19:52 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: DCPatriot
Interesting, but remarkably predictable that you are the only one on this thread who agrees with this claptrap.

I forgot, what was your answer to the question of exactly what is an acceptable number of Americans killed or raped by these illegals? Is 1,000 ok with you? Is your magic number 2500 American victims?

We know that you open border profiteers like to pretend that this isn't part of the issue but the rest of us know it is.

17 posted on 09/26/2007 6:52:02 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: BohDaThone
Not to sound ungrateful for a better researched description of changes in US immigration law (I was operating off the top of my head).

I think it is not an accident that the major restrictions were implemented after the first World War disrupted the migrations from eastern and southern Europe, forcing employers who had gotten in the habit of using cheap immigrant labor to either mechanize or hire Americans (often blacks).

18 posted on 09/27/2007 2:48:57 AM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion worth what you paid.)
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To: wtc911
You're an old tired joke, wtc911.

Even your homies have deserted you.

And the lack of replies in this important thread speaks for itself.

A lot of the more educated anti-illegals are hiding in lurk mode...afraid to show their faces...because they realize they've been made laughing stocks.

19 posted on 09/27/2007 8:37:54 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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ping


20 posted on 09/27/2007 11:39:33 AM PDT by gubamyster
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