[Clemenza]

This is why the argument that our side sometimes uses about how said group is "ruining our culture" and "creating a crime wave" will NOT win, as both people of color and moderate whites see these as "intolerance." In order for us to win the argument, we need to take culture out of it and emphasize the economic costs and legal ramifications (undermining of the rule of law).

Whether you like it or not, even if we deported every illegal tomorrow, we are still going to have millions and millions of Latinos among us. Let's can it on the "culture war" crap and emphasize law enforcement/economic costs.

And even after we finally start enforcing our immigration laws, and you still thing there are "too many hispanics" in your area, may I suggest West Virginia, eastern North Dakota, or northern Maine?

[From One - Many]

None I know here has a problem with legals....it is the illegals.....legals vs illegals.....I’ll take legals every time because they truly want to be here and do not have an agenda except to be here to become Americans. Legal vs Illegal is the only question, as far as I am concerned.

[norton]

"Whether you like it or not, even if we deported every illegal tomorrow, we are still going to have millions and millions of Latinos among us. Let's can it on the "culture war" crap and emphasize law enforcement/economic costs."

And whether you like it or not most of those millions of legal latinos speak English, pay taxes, have insurance, and are just as threatened by the illegals as are the rest of us.

The economic and legal issues you cite are going to be with us as long as there are socialists and elitists ready to buy votes and enforce relativism on society - that is what is not going away.

The whole diversity gimmick is a culture war against the USA, waged from within the USA as well as from without. THAT is what we and the legal immigrants and native born but of foreign extraction (who no one here is trying to disenfranchise) need to be fighting.