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1 posted on 09/28/2007 3:13:59 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 09/28/2007 3:14:28 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 09/28/2007 3:15:32 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

They are advertising this vaccine heavily on Spanish-language TV, and I mean heavily, using girls who look like they are 11 years old. It is definitely creepy, and I imagine that it has some Latino fathers extremely upset.


4 posted on 09/28/2007 3:18:08 PM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: wagglebee
You’re link didn’t lead me anywhere.
5 posted on 09/28/2007 3:19:21 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: wagglebee

Top link. ;)


6 posted on 09/28/2007 3:23:07 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: wagglebee

What sort of illnesses does the vaccine create?


7 posted on 09/28/2007 3:26:04 PM PDT by Clara Lou (I put my money where my mouth is-- Thompson '08)
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To: wagglebee

My oldest of my three daughters just got her first shot recently(three spread out over six months).I have enough problems dealing with my little teen darlings(/S). Now I have to worry about this.A nice Maker’s Mark(or three)on the rocks is definately in my immediate future.


8 posted on 09/28/2007 3:27:46 PM PDT by GQuagmire (Giggety,Giggety,Giggety)
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To: wagglebee

Saw an article today, where men are getting the virus also and getting cancer in the tonsils and neck from it. Time to start vaccinating the little boys also.


9 posted on 09/28/2007 3:29:02 PM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: wagglebee

What did they die from?


10 posted on 09/28/2007 3:30:50 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: wagglebee
The database is voluntary and thus is unlikely to include all adverse effects from the vaccine.

If by "not all" the author means it may not include all of the adverse reactions that occured then sure. That's any drug. If by "not all" the author means that the list may not include all of the types of adverse reactions that occur, then that's incorrect for all practical purposes.

An interesting number to compare the 7 deaths to would be the number of people who have actually had the vaccine. That would give us a better idea of the scope of the damage this vaccine is causing on the front end (back end to be determined later). Acetominephen (tylenol) is probably associated with more than 7 deaths a month. Consider that in one hospital in Dallas, there were 5 deaths from acetaminophen in a 40 month period. (The New England Journal of Medicine by Drs. Frank V. Schiodt, Fedja A. Rochling, Donna L. Casey, and William M. Lee from the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center.) All drugs have risk. All have adverse events. It SHOULD ALWAYS be the patient's decision to weigh the risk/benefit of the drug with informed consent.

13 posted on 09/28/2007 3:35:12 PM PDT by the808bass
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Age is listed for four of the girls who died at: 11, 12, 15 and 19.

I'm sure they all wanted to be one less. One less . . . . victim of Gardisil.

17 posted on 09/28/2007 3:38:23 PM PDT by Petronski (Congratulations Tribe! AL Central Champs)
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To: wagglebee
No.

This is to further the agenda. If it contained arsenic it would still be labeled “Safe”.

46 posted on 09/28/2007 4:10:23 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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For later investigation.
47 posted on 09/28/2007 4:13:54 PM PDT by glaseatr (Father of a Marine, Uncle of SGT Adam Estep. A Co. 2/5 Cav. KIA Thurs April 29, 2004 Baghdad Iraq)
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To: wagglebee
How many have been given the vaccine? What is the percentage of 7 out of the total that were given the vaccine? Some 100 + thousand die every year from wrong or other medicines prescribed by Doctors, but the medicines save many more that would die without them. Without the vaccine what percentage, of those vaccinated, would develop cancer? Approximately 64 people die every hour from cancer.
51 posted on 09/28/2007 4:28:43 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: wagglebee

Some of those reports are secondhand and undetailed. “A doctor was told at a conference” or “A nurse said a doctor told her.” They may refer events already reported - you can’t tell. It is very difficult to attribute an anaphylactic reaction that occurred a month after the vaccination to the vaccination - I’m not sure you could do it. Other deaths perhaps linkable to Gardasil may have gone unreported.

You would have to compare two large matched populations of young women and girls, one vaccinated and the other not, looking for events like these - thromboses and anaphylactic shock, etc - and see if there really was an increase.

Mrs VS


52 posted on 09/28/2007 4:33:27 PM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: wagglebee

I blogged on the vaccine, today.
http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/2007/09/homework-fallacies-about-gardasil.html

An association does not mean “causation.”

Using the database, there have been 606 deaths associated with the DTAP, the new formulation of the Diptheria, Tetanus and pertussis vaccines.

There have been 478 associated with the flu vaccine.

I do hope that people will do the search, HPV4, with “yes” for ?Death?

Most of these are “someone told someone else.” A couple of the girls had had many vaccines at once, including one who had the chicken pox vaccine, Hepatitis A vaccine, and the Gardasil the same day. There is one girl who had Influenza B and developed Acute Respiratory Syndrome. There’s another with pneumonia, and another with asthma.

“Information has been received from a physician who attended a conference that mentioned two patients who were vaccinated with Gardasil. Subsequently the patients died. The cause of death not reported. Attempts are being made to obtain additional identifying information to distinguish the individual patients mentioned in this report. Additional information will be provided if available. Additional information has been requested.”

“Information has been received from a nurse practitioner who heard from an emergency room (ER) nurse that an 11 year old female was vaccinated “within in the past month” in approximately May 2007 with a first dose of Gardasil. Subsequently, 3 days after vaccination the patient presented to an ER. She experienced cardiac arrest, required lung bypass (ECMO) and “may not have expired.” It was also reported by the same nurse that the physician from the hospital said that “the death was due to an anaphylactic reaction to Gardasil.” The anaphylactic reaction and cardiac arrest were considered to be life threatening by the reporter. Additional information has been requested.”

“Information has been received from a licensed visiting nurse via a nurse practitioner. The nurse practitioner was told by a friend that a female patient was vaccinated with Gardasil and two weeks alter developed a blood clot.”

THis one was most likely due to the Influenza B:
“Onset of symptoms on 3/1/07: fever, sore throat, cough, and myalgia. Respiratory failure on 3/6/07. 6/1/07 Received Death Certificate from epidemiologist which reveals COD asmultiorgan system failure and influenza B viral sepsis with contributing cause of staphyloccoccal secondary infection. Medical records included w/death certificate indicate patient was transferred to higher level of care on 3/6, was intubated & in PICU w/pneumonia & ARDS. Reportedly had been in good health until 3/1/07 when she developed sore throat, nasal congestion, rhinnorhea & low grade fever. COntinued to worsen & developed myalgias, chest pain & nonproductive cough w/higher fever. Seen by PCP on 3/5 & rapid strep was neg & dx was probable influenza. Sent home & developed nausea, vomiting & diarrhea as well as petechial rash over abdomen. Taken to outlying ER on 3/6 & found to be in respiratory failure, intubated & transferred to higher level of care. Respiratory status declined further & was placed on oscillator & ECMO. Peds ID consult done. Consult states had HPV vax at PCP on 3/2 & no other recent vaccines. 6/1/07 Received fax medical & vaccine records from CDC who had contacted provider. Reveals that on 1/2/07, patient received TDaP & HPV. VAERS database updated w/same. On day of vax patient also dx w/right CTS, migraine HA, scoliosis. She was referred to Neuro & PT for the CTS & HA.”

I repeat, “associated” does not mean “caused.”


53 posted on 09/28/2007 4:38:22 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/index.html)
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58 posted on 09/28/2007 4:57:15 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: wagglebee
I sent this link to all my family - I have many young granddaughters - and added:

the number of new drugs that first create and alarm and then get pulled from the market has been increasing alarmingly in the past few years.

I stopped taking Vioxx before it got pulled, for ex., and have stopped taking Fosamax because of some really frightening side effects reported...

I was prescribed Baycol (a statin) a few years back - but didn't take it due to reports of serious side effects. It was finally taken of the market.

I have had doctors urge me to take the HRT (hormone replacement drugs) for years. I didn't like the reports and didn't take them. Now the dangers are widely known.

Two years ago, the FDS even issued a warning on ALL drugs from one well known company.

This problem has grown to the point where drugs proven dangerous can stay on the market by putting a 'black box' warning on their product. Case in point:

http://www.drugrecalls.com/

an excerpt from the above site:

On August 14, 2007, the FDA announced that GlaxoSmithKline agreed to add a "black-box" label to Avandia warning that Avandia may cause or worsen heart failure and that patients should be closely monitored. A "black box" label is the most severe warning a prescription drug can carry. The announcement follows a July 30, 2007 FDA advisory meeting which concluded that the data shows that Avandia increases heart risks and recommended a black-box warning.

FDA Avandia Safety Alert:

43% Heart Attack Increase The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is aware of a potential safety issue related to Avandia (rosiglitazone), a drug approved to treat type 2 diabetes. Recently released safety data from controlled clinical trials shows a significant increase in the risk of heart attack and heart-related deaths in patients using Avandia. We have received numerous reports of serious side effects and deaths...

****************************************** Ortho Evra Warning

Numerous lawsuits have been filed by users of the Ortho Evra Birth Control Patch alleging that the maker knowingly misinformed the public about the drug's risk of severe potentially fatal side effects, including heart attack, stroke, pulmonary embolisms, deep vein thrombosis, and blood clots. According to records obtained by the FDA women using Ortho Evra in 2004 were three times as likely as women using birth control pills to die or develop nonfatal blood clots. In November 2005 the company updated its warning label for the drug to say that women who use Ortho Evra have a higher risk of experiencing blood clots and other side effects than previously stated.

******************************************************* 'Altho' we need to listen to our doctors, we necc. to also inform ourselves.

There are a number of good books out that give the side effects of prescription drugs = one I find the best - and cheapest - is "The Pill Book" - it is republished yearly to keep up with the new drugs. It's essential to have.

Some drugs save our lives and our health = but we have to do our own research.....we cannot rely solely on the FDA to protect us - they are too often a day late and a dollar short...

Love you all

61 posted on 09/28/2007 5:00:03 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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Ping to those on the “Perry orders anti-cancer vaccine for schoolgirls” thread. I recall that side effects were being hotly debated at the time.

I thought you might be interested in the follow-up.


74 posted on 09/28/2007 5:24:59 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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