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To: TheLineMustBeDrawnHere
The inflation data is bogus. The weak dollar versus hard currencies and commodities like gold and oil show what's really happening (as does M3 charts), and now that the Fed has announced that they'll forget about fighting inflation for awhile until they think the credit crunch is over, the dollar is left to die on the vine. And the fallout from collateralized debt obligations with mortgage-backed securities is far from over. Lots of ARMs set to reset. On the positive side, exporters will be busy.

We need a recession to cure the overspending and debt accumulation habits of government and consumers.

3 posted on 09/28/2007 4:13:03 PM PDT by kcar (HillCare 2.0: Freedom's deathbed)
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To: kcar

M3 chart doesn’t reflect productivity nor does it account for old money being removed from the system. There are many things cheaper now than a couple years ago, namely 99% of electronics, most clothing, housing, etc. Even prescription drugs are now flat and if you know where to look are cheaper than in many years. Energy isn’t up much in the last year (although it’s up a lot from its all time lows a decade ago). Food started to creep up but has slowed down and probably will continue to (The grocery chain I work for has similar inflation #s to the PPI/CPI for Food). I just don’t see this ‘rampant’ inflation at the moment that some of you claim to see everywhere except in commodities which do not appear to be spilling over into other prices.


5 posted on 09/28/2007 4:19:44 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: kcar

yeah, if anything inflation is more benign that the data indicates ...


7 posted on 09/28/2007 4:38:02 PM PDT by TheLineMustBeDrawnHere
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To: kcar
We need a recession to cure the overspending and debt accumulation habits of government and consumers.

A recession described as a "cure?" Tell you what, if you think it is a cure, you go first and tell us how it goes. If, after experiencing it, you still feel like the rest of us need one, we'll take a look at how you have fared and perhaps put it up for a vote at the next meeting. Until then, let's consider the issue "on hold". Keep in touch and take copius notes. Better yet, start a blog so we can see your progress through the experience.

9 posted on 09/28/2007 4:49:22 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: kcar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_supply

From the links here, it looks like M3 includes Eurodollar deposits. You can see the M1s in the US are actually down year over year while the Euro M1 is way up. This leads me to believe the larger amount of M3 in the US is due to almost entirely the Eurodollar. Furthermore, even ignoring that the M3 here in the US is less than or almost identical to that of other countries including Aussie, Canada, UK, Eurozone, China, etc. Pretty much everywhere except Japan (which the dollar is doing just fine against). Again, I believe the dollar is down to other factors, most notably investors/speculators.

11 posted on 09/28/2007 4:55:01 PM PDT by rb22982
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