Posted on 09/30/2007 12:33:58 PM PDT by yorkie
Apparently so. They keep doing it, and we keep (re-)electing 'em.
Like the man said:
"I stopped voting for politicians years ago. I realized it was only encouraging them."
Its title certainly suggests that it would apply broadly.
> It’s time that our institutions of higher learning moderate their points of view, especially by the guests they invite and to whom they give a prestigious forum.
Of course, -any- limit on whom they are permitted to invite will piss off somebody, right, left, or center. Once you start down that road you can only get muddy. I share the sentiment, mind you; but it's not clear how it can be fairly or properly implemented in practice.
> Captain Marmalade, the Persian, has made it abundantly clear that he wants to remove Israel from the earth. In my view, that’s about as close to a declaration of war, or at the very least, murderous intent, as he could get.
I believe he means it, and he's clearly dangerous. But it's not a declaration of war -- if it were, Israel would have already responded, and Tehran would have large expanses of warm-to-the-touch glass instead of city space.
There's nothing actionable about words of murderous intent, especially from politicians who make a living spouting insanity. Many on this forum make such threats about liberals, and while they don't have access to nukes (I presume), they mostly do have guns, knives, and bare hands. I'm not going to argue that their words are the same as actions. ;-)
So while I think Ahmanutjob's serious, it's still mainly talk. OTOH, I'd like to see his nuke capability taken out pronto, declaration of war or not. And if he takes serious military steps against Israel, that's a whole 'nother story.
> And Columbia invited him to speak because why?
They're liberal idiots?
Get serious.
Did we cut off funding when a prof called the 911 victims “Little Eichmanns”?
Jeez.
Duncan Hunter is correct with his legislation.
Also, no University or college should receive one dollar from the government. If they can’t make it on their own
with tuition (and profs are over paid especially with TAs doing most of the instruction.) then shut down the school.
People with degrees are a dime a dozen anyways.
Thank you. I agree.
Defintively reactionary crap.. PLEASE “Restore Patriotism To University Campuses Act?... When did a University Campus EVER have patriotism as a founding principal? This is totally rediculous. How about an “Act in a way a public representative should act to make the country proud, ACT”
First: Let’s identify the real problem here.. If the accusation and ruling is that Ahmadinejad is IN FACT, absolutely, without question, a TERRORIST, then our own government is to blame first and foremost for ALLOWING a bonefide TERRORIST into the country. Columbia University inviting him doesn’t get him here or give him immunity to be here, nor does the UN. Some would argue diplomatic immunity... If we, again, have officially declared him an actual Terrorist (to the point that a representative can create an ACT punishing a third party ), then the rules of diplomacy and foreign diplomatic relations BY OUR OWN LAWS DO NOT APPLY. He should have been immediately carted off to Gitmo the moment he set foot on American soil.
2nd: In regards to Columbia University: What is this, kindergarten, “Oh I’m tellllling, they invited a Terro.. Terr, Terroriiss To Class!” Patriotism is not a college requirement, however, the proper and ethical teaching of Political Science could be a major issue. Inviting a world leader so we can kangaroo-court him like IDIOTS on international television make us out to be the intolerable, unethical, arrogant, dumb Americans everyone else already thinks we are.
Honestly we are “spanking” the wrong “PART” of the University. The Federal Contracts are used at Columbia for Miltary DOD, DOE, and advanced Physics research (such as Nevis labs), ALL in which aid our military and technological advancement. The problem area are the Liberal “Fruit Booties” that invited the guy. If we want to hit that, we need to find a way to cut off funding to the “Political Sciences” and “Arts” at Columbia U, instead of the one part of the University (the scientists, engineers, and researchers, most of which are conservative due to logic and reason) that indeed help our country.
In such a case, Cut off grants to ANY University PROGRAM that employs unethical teaching practices or that publicly degrade the image of the USA. This may walk a thin line with censorship when enforced with the wrong intent and with certain programs. Specifically , we need to enforce ethical teaching practices to our children. Had the students been underage, this incident would equate to contributing to the delinquency of a minor. (if it wasn’t so American and Cool to bash a terrorist on International TV)
In the case of Columbia, it’s Lib Arts and Political Sciences programs should be investigated and all grants suspended from such programs, consequences should also apply for anyone who provides aid to such a University in those particualr Programs. Accreditations should be reviewed as well.
Basically, get Ahmadinejad classified as an undisputable terrorist, then arrest or shoot his butt (if we truly believe this to be the case). Support ethical teaching methods of our students, punish Universities that practice unethical teaching that brings disgrace and dishonor upon our nation.
B4DH
The little issue of deliberately attempting to bring to vote an “Ex post facto” law, without adjusting the language to be truly considered as a legitimate lasting act, really leads me to view Mr. Hunter as uneducated and unfit for his position.
Like a private University receiving Federal Funds (BAD IDEA), supporting a legal representative that knows nothing of basic law, and acts based on emotion and revenge, is an outright dumb idea. He has wasted our time on this issue in an attempt to vocalize outrage thru a legal threat, without providing a fit law that could help our country and Universities from doing this again. Legislation like this simply wastes our time and taxpayers money. At least Hunter gets the “moral high ground” for making an empty threat with taxpayers money.... Iran needs to be dealt with, but this measure is a truly ridiculous waste of time and money.
If a legal issue already exists, then the specific individuals that orchestrated the visit, along with the President of the University who supported the visit, should be dealt with.
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