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Picking the Right College for You -- and Your Wallet (For Parents of College-bound kids)
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Posted on 10/02/2007 7:01:37 AM PDT by SirLinksalot

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To: SirLinksalot

Heard of Grove City College? They need a good look from anyone sending a child off to college.

You’ll see that I agree with your assertion about Federal Aid.


21 posted on 10/02/2007 7:52:47 AM PDT by trimom
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To: LibreOuMort

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22 posted on 10/02/2007 7:57:13 AM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: ladyjane
Others got the scholarship who went to non-competitive schools where English was a second language.

That's why I'm pushing mine to keep in the top 10%. Right now with colleges pandering to illegals that law is the only thing that will guarantee there's a desk available for my child. It's to the point, I just want the desk and I'll worry about the $$$ later. I know there won't be scholorships that amount to anything because she's not a minority or has some sob story to tell them about life in the mother country. I just want her admitted. Look at most any US college web site and you'll see they cater to illegals. While scouting out universities for my child who happens to be a white AP honor student and #4 in the class, I'm seeing lots of preferential admittance for those from lower socio-economic areas, underserved regions with particular emphasis on southern Texas, bilingual, educationally disadvantaged (excuse me, this from the medical field?), race/ethnicity, success in overcoming adverse family experiences, and they almost come out and state they will turn a blind eye to residence status.

23 posted on 10/02/2007 8:05:15 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: trimom
Heard of Grove City College? They need a good look from anyone sending a child off to college.

Yes I have. They fought a case all the way to the Supreme Court in the 1980's to prevent the Feds from imposing on them. Since then, they have refused all Federal aid and are still THRIVING. Tuition Fee (including board and lodging ) is somewhere in the range of above $17,000, and if you can demonstrate financial need, they'll even cut it further.

Their campus is gorgeous and every student gets a free laptop HP computer and colored printer, and their job placement record for graduated students are unsurpassed. 91% find a good job within 6 months, 100% of their pre-med students go to medical school and 100% of their education majors find jobs as soon as they graduate. TOP THAT for a private college with no aid from Uncle Sam !

Hillsdale College in Michigan is another one. Their endowment is SUPERB and they pride themselves in being independent. Plus, their core curriculum dispenses with all the fluff nonsense you see in a lot of celebrated colleges.

I can think of others as well but these two are the cream of the crop.

A few caveats abiout Grove City College -- it is an unabashed Christian school, so if you are not into that stuff, you might not like it as they require students to attend chapel 16 times a year. Also, it isn't easy to get in, the entrance requirements are very competitive plus they require a face to face interview. Other than that, this is a hidden treasure.
24 posted on 10/02/2007 8:07:48 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: TMSuchman
We told our four the same thing! Oldest got a full scholarship at UMass, then went on to law school, where he got loans, too. But he's now an attorney in Boston, so he can start paying those off. #2 son wanted Carnegie Mellon, and now has the loans to show for it. He did get financial aid for the first couple of years, so that kept the total down somewhat, but it's still a chunk. He also finished in 3 1/2 years with two majors, because he'd taken so many AP courses in high school that he went in with almost a full year's credits. He in Grad school now, on a Fellowship, and he'd dearly love to teach college, but he'll likely go into the corporate world for a few years at first, so he can pay off the loans.

#3, and our only daughter got a 3/4 scholarship to a small, private, Catholic university and loves the place. #4 and youngest son is in his Senior year, and mulling over the options. He's thinking, to save money, he'll live at home for the first couple of years, attending a local state college. He can use that time to figure out a major, without racking up huge loans. Then, he can either finish at that school, or transfer to another for his upper level work.

I realized a long time ago, watching fellow students, that those who paid for their own education were MUCH more serious about it than those whose Daddies were footing the bill. We also told our kids that we'd paid for twelve years of Catholic school, so now it was their responsibility to invest in their own futures. Besides, we wanted some money on which to retire!

25 posted on 10/02/2007 8:08:22 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SirLinksalot
This works to a point...

#2 wants to be a nurse. She took much of the prerequisites at the local CC, has her EMT, was a member of a volunteer fire dept when we lived in MD. Its an informed choice.

To get into nursing school is a real problem these days. Waiting for several years with a lottery for admittance seems to be the norm. We took a different path...expensive private school. We looked at the time to required to get in, the costs to house her while she waits, lost income, etc vice a 2.5 year straight run. I decided to write large checks for the next few years. It makes sense from an area under the curve perspective.

Its not a choice everyone can make, but it works for us. She is living with family to minimize costs, and we do not require an outside job (her job is to get good grades).
As a Nursing student the military will give her a scholarship upon request in exchange for 4 years service, which may be an option for others.

Nursing is a special case, but at least in our case, the right answer was to bite the bullet.

26 posted on 10/02/2007 8:17:51 AM PDT by Starwolf
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To: Fiji Hill

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27 posted on 10/02/2007 8:18:17 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: dawn53

Yes, mine is/will be taking AP and dual credit classes so should have at least enough hours to be classified a sophomore by the end of high school. However, here you must pay for the AP test and there is a couple hundred dollar fee for the dual credit class so it’s not all free.

What’s this state merit scholarship? The National Merit Scholarship is only $2500.


28 posted on 10/02/2007 8:25:08 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: SirLinksalot

Look up your schools here first:

http://thefire.org/

http://www.mindingthecampus.com/


29 posted on 10/02/2007 8:37:45 AM PDT by cowtowney
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To: SirLinksalot

and don’t forget the Pell Grants - they have done more to help kids from financially strapped families than any program in history. And - they must keep their grades up - unlike Mom and Dad who keep shelling it out regardless of what their poor grade, partying, spring break orgy young’uns do.


30 posted on 10/02/2007 8:38:44 AM PDT by elpadre
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To: mtbopfuyn

Qualifying for the National Merit Scholarship is a sliding scale as well. If you are a student in, say, Maryland, your PSAT score needs to be significantly higher than if you are a student in West Virginia.


31 posted on 10/02/2007 8:40:24 AM PDT by trimom
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To: Starwolf
Nursing is a special case, but at least in our case, the right answer was to bite the bullet.

She chose the right profession. America's Demographics will all but ENSURE that she will have a job for life. Also note this -- THIS IS ONE JOB THAT CAN NEVER BE OUTSOURCED ( unless they can design a robot nurse ).

In fact, Nurses are in need AROUND THE WORLD.

The shortage in NY State is so acute that they are IMPORTING nurses from overseas. Anyone who can pass the US Nursing board exam gets a work permit and eventually a green card. Now that's LEGAL immigration based on a need that isn't going away ( and nope they aren't paid slave wages. They're paid the PREVAILING NURSE's WAGE ).
32 posted on 10/02/2007 8:42:14 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot

I have two younger ones in private school

My oldest daughter will be at Lipscomb College in January, the younger at Belmont.

Both not far from where I am typing.

I hope to get at least 50% reduction from non-income dependent grants and maybe student loans beyond that some.

I would rather help them pay off the loans than just peel off all that cash now but we’ll see.

When I went to Ole Miss in 1976, tuition was 500/semester and dorms/meal ticket were another 150 bucks

Education costs have outpaced inflation by multiples.

Crazy....too many kids going to college.

Here in TN, we have lottery grants, it’s a racket for many minority kids and their white trash homeys...they go to community school, wreak havoc on the classes and defer, defer , defer and then get the check and quit.

What a waste.

Plus...i had never heard of a college class where the teacher could not keep order till my girls took some filler classes at Nashville State


33 posted on 10/02/2007 8:47:48 AM PDT by wardaddy (if God is your co-pilot, you need to switch seats)
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To: Aunt Polgara

“Also, because of the way financial aid works, it can sometimes be cheaper to go to a private school than an public one.”

I found this to be true, sort of. Depends on the student, I guess. But for the two I have in college right now, the cost of private and state schools was very comparable, when the full aid package was on the table.


34 posted on 10/02/2007 8:49:57 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: mtbopfuyn

In Florida it’s called Bright Futures, in Georgia it’s called The Hope Scholarship. It pays tuition to a state college (for instance UF, FSU, etc. in Florida; GaTech or U of GA in Georgia, and all other state 4 year public colleges) for up to 21 hours per term, for four years, as long as the student maintains a certain grade average. The student/parents must be residents and it is earned primarily through SAT/ACT score, GPA, etc. It also includes a small stipend for books ($300 which covers the cost of books for a couple classes, at least.)

http://www.gsfc.org/hope/
http://www.floridastudentfinancialaid.org/ssfad/bf/


35 posted on 10/02/2007 9:10:30 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: Skywalk
Gone are the days where an English major could settle into middle management and work his way up. No, you’re working at Starbuck’s or something now while you figure out that you could have gone into property management or some other field that doesn’t require a college degree AND that you forewent all that extra income you could have had!

This comment must be at least partially autobiographical. Who but an old-line (pre-deconstructionist) English major would know how to say "forgo" in the past tense?

And who but a refugee-from-the-liberal-arts-turned-computer-geek would then dare to point out that you misspelled it?

36 posted on 10/02/2007 9:10:44 AM PDT by thulldud (This tagline has been forgone)
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To: mtbopfuyn

Try not to worry too much about your honor student child who is #4 in her class. She is doing exceptionally well in high school and will do the same when she gets to college and later out in the world of work.

Hands down the best students I’ve dealt with are those who needed to work while they were in school. Some of them even had to take a leave of absence for financial reasons. While away they would take courses at the local community college (at a very low cost) and transfer those courses to their more expensive university. That way they were able to graduate with their class but save A LOT of money at the same time.


37 posted on 10/02/2007 9:27:45 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: dawn53

NYS does not have a merit-based program like yours, sadly. We used to have the Regents Scholarships, which paid for my tuition years and years ago, but our lovely state got rid of the funding. Oh, kids still get Regents diplomas, but that’s it.


38 posted on 10/02/2007 9:38:45 AM PDT by tabor
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To: SirLinksalot

I always thought the military academies were the best school for the price of tution.


39 posted on 10/02/2007 10:20:00 AM PDT by art_rocks
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To: TMSuchman

Remember to help her look at the schloarships available from VA, military and semi military sources(Officer Wives Club, AAFEES, etc) due to your past military experience. This is a source I bet your daughter wouldn’t think to check.

My dad was in his 60s collecting SS when I was in college. Didn’t realize that i was able to get some money from Social Security. I was still considered the same as a family member under 18 since I was at college.


40 posted on 10/02/2007 10:26:14 AM PDT by art_rocks
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