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Defense, Ted-Style
IBD ^ | October 2, 2007

Posted on 10/02/2007 6:03:01 PM PDT by Kaslin

Politics: Ted Kennedy attaches hate crime legislation to a needed defense authorization bill. Is he more interested in defending the U.S. or the gay rights agenda?


Knowing that President Bush would veto it as a stand-alone bill, Sen. Kennedy attached to the recently passed bill authorizing $150 billion for Iraq and Afghanistan an amendment he calls the Mathew Shepard Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2007.

The House version of the hate crimes act, passed May 3, drew the threat of a presidential veto. But Kennedy placed his hope on the fact that a "president of the United States has never vetoed, in the history of the United States, a defense authorization bill." Well, there's always a first time.

So what does a hate crimes bill have to do with a bill to fight the war on terror? Kennedy explains: "The defense authorization is about dealing with the threat of terrorism overseas. . . . This (bill) is about terrorism in our neighborhood."

And about terrorism against gays in the military, senator?

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1 posted on 10/02/2007 6:03:04 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

These are the kinds of games our solons in Congress have been playing for decades, if not centuries. It’s time for serious reform of the institution, and it will have to come from without, because it won’t come from within.


2 posted on 10/02/2007 6:08:19 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: Kaslin
Cannot someone with Legal expertise CHALLENGE the Constitutionality of giving SPECIAL PRIVELEGES to a SELECT CLASS, and still claim it passes the "Equal Protection" rights of NORMAL Citizens (well-adjusted, not sexually deviant)?

Does not existing law protect ALL Citizens EQUALLY already, and this law supplants it with extraordinary treatment for some, but not others?

3 posted on 10/02/2007 6:08:35 PM PDT by traditional1 ( Fred Thompson-The ONLY electable Republican Candidate)
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To: Kaslin

4 posted on 10/02/2007 6:09:05 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (Know thy enemy. Learn Farsi.)
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To: Kaslin

I would have the President veto the legislation and send it back with a strongly worded admonition to the Congress not to be playing games with the armed forces. Handled correctly this could leave Kennedy with egg on his face. I know it will be tricky since the MSM will have nothing do with making Kennedy look bad, but it’s not impossible and needs to be done. The stakes are high, for both our brave men and women on the battlefield, and that’s all the more reason to keep Kennedy from exploiting their needs to get something that would never make it on its own.

If it were me and I had to resort to a veto of this needed funding I would make damn sure nothing else moved until they sent me a clean bill.

It’s going to hurt, and the chances of it backfiring are pretty high, but as my Mom used to tell me, nothing ventured nothing gained.


5 posted on 10/02/2007 6:13:18 PM PDT by jwparkerjr (Sigh . . .)
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To: Kaslin
Damn! I was expecting for a Ted Nugent article. :(
6 posted on 10/02/2007 6:14:51 PM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: popdonnelly
It would be a wonderful legacy for President to leave if he could just muster the testicular fortitude to take this on and make it a high-priority for his remaining time in office.

This sort of thing has simply GOT to come to an end or it will be the death of our way of government and life.

7 posted on 10/02/2007 6:16:14 PM PDT by jwparkerjr (Sigh . . .)
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To: Kaslin

The old washed up crispy livered lush is a bonehead. Will he be cremated when he dies? Look out for the flash fire.


8 posted on 10/02/2007 6:16:47 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: jwparkerjr

The President doesn’t have any control over Congress, and Congress sure as heck won’t control itself. Bunch of arrogant bastards. The only thing he can do is demand a defense appropriation that’s unencumbered with crap.


9 posted on 10/02/2007 6:32:00 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: shankbear

Fathead Ted won’t burn, he’ll “melt” just like the Wicked Witch of the West. God Forbid that his ashes should be sprayed on the Nantucket Sound via the Wind Farm!!!
Life could be great if Liberal Assachusetts would just go away!


10 posted on 10/02/2007 6:34:36 PM PDT by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: Kaslin

Pass it. Hate crimes legislation is only of concern to those who commit crimes. I don’t give a damn about their rights.

And these things tend to boomerang anyway.


11 posted on 10/02/2007 6:42:52 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Kaslin

That drunken, senile SOB should be voted out of office.


12 posted on 10/02/2007 6:43:05 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: michigander

I thought the headline was about Ted Nugent, too! LOL!


13 posted on 10/02/2007 6:47:01 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (My number one goal in life is to leave a bigger carbon footprint than Al Gore.)
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To: caisson71
That drunken, senile SOB should be voted out of office.

Ain't gonna happen because of the turf...

14 posted on 10/02/2007 6:51:30 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: Kaslin

What I never understood is that the same liberals who constantly cite figures that the U.S. has the highest incarceration rate in the world would like to increase that rate by introducing hate crimes legislation. Remember that these same liberals tell us that all incarcerating somebody does is to make them better criminals. In a prision, don’t you think that a gay or minority hater is just going to learn more about what’s to hate about gays and minorities (also according to liberals)? Do you see the contradiction in their opinions?
-Joe


15 posted on 10/02/2007 7:28:39 PM PDT by Joe_Vissarion
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To: Kaslin

Homosexual Protections Tacked onto Defense Appropriation Bill

The Senate has adopted legislation giving homosexuals additional protections under federal hate-crime laws and attached the measure to the defense authorization bill, daring President Bush to veto it.

Chief sponsor of the gay protection provision, Senator Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.), congratulated himself for the strategy of attaching it to the defense authorization bill. “The president of the United States has never vetoed, in the history of the United States, a defense authorization bill,” Kennedy said. “By linking gay rights and national defense we give the president the choice of supporting or abandoning both.”

Kennedy maintained that the linkage was relevant because of “the continued terrorizing of gays by the heterosexual community.” “We don’t allow gays to marry,” Kennedy pointed out. “They must resort to artificial mechanisms if they want to have children. They are exposed to deadly diseases that are virtually unknown among the rest of society. They’re the butt lewd jokes. Daily humiliation is their lot in life. They need this extra protection.”

Under Kennedy’s bill, anyone convicted of a crime against a gay person would face doubled penalties. Defendants who cannot prove that they have at least “experimented” with homosexuality would be classified as prima facie anti-gay and subject to the doubled penalty.

A potential filibuster of the gay provision was headed off by Kennedy’s argument that if he had been gay, Mary Jo Kopechne would still be alive today.

read more...

http://www.azconservative.org/Semmens1.htm


16 posted on 10/02/2007 7:52:50 PM PDT by John Semmens
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To: Kaslin

Ted’s idea of defense is battling the Scotch bottle and slapping female staffers upside the head with a couple of inches of limp Ted.


17 posted on 10/02/2007 7:55:43 PM PDT by RichInOC (Ted Kennedy...The Man in the Brooks Brothers Shirt.)
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