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NASA blames rapid decline in Arctic sea ice on 'unusual winds' (not greenhouse gases)
AccuWeather ^ | Meteorologist Brett Anderson

Posted on 10/03/2007 2:58:12 PM PDT by EPW Comm Team

October 2, 2007 Recent Rapid Decline in Sea Ice caused by Unusual Winds, says NASA

A few of our commentators on this blog found this story earlier today and I thank them.

Anyway, in a news release from NASA Monday, a group of scientists have determined that unusual winds caused the rapid decline (23% loss) in winter perennial ice over the past two years in the northern hemisphere. This drastic reduction is the primary cause of this summer's fastest-ever sea ice retreat in recorded history which has lead to the smallest extent of total Arctic coverage on record.

According to the NASA study, the perennial ice shrunk by an area the size of Texas and California combined between the winter of 2005 and the winter of 2007. What they found was the Arctic Ocean north of Siberia and Alaska was dominated by thinner seasonal ice that melts faster compared to the thicker ice confined to the Arctic Ocean north of Canada. The thinner ice is more easily compressed and responds more quickly to being pushed out of the Arctic by winds.

"Unusual atmospheric conditions set up wind patterns that compressed the sea ice, loaded it into the Transpolar Drift Stream and then sped its flow out of the Arctic," said Son Nghiem of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and leader of the study. When that sea ice reached lower latitudes, it rapidly melted in the warmer waters.

What about these unusual wind patterns. Well, the article does not go into that too much, but I must believe some of this is due to changes in the Arctic Oscillation (AO) and the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO) which are large atmospheric circulations which have major impacts on the weather in certain parts of the world.


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This new NASA study will be published in the peer-reviewed journal Geophysical Research Letters on October 4, 2007. Do not expect much media coverage of to blame 'winds' for reduced Arctic sea ice. Also, do not expect the media to note that Antarctic sea-ice has GROWN to record levels since satellte monitoring began in the 1970's. See: http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere

Also, Southern Hemisphere has been cooling overall in recent years, see: http://www.thehilltimes.ca/html/cover_index.php?display=story&full_path=/2007/august/13/letter4/&c=1

In addtion, Greenland has COOLED since the 1930's and 1940's. see: http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=175B568A-802A-23AD-4C69-9BDD978FB3CD

Plus: Global warming itself has paused since 1998 and new peer-reviewed studies continue to debunk fears of rising CO2. See: http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=84e9e44a-802a-23ad-493a-b35d0842fed8

1 posted on 10/03/2007 2:58:16 PM PDT by EPW Comm Team
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Whale farts.............


2 posted on 10/03/2007 3:01:03 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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Must not have gotten the memo.


3 posted on 10/03/2007 3:02:33 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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HAHAHHAHA...dude, I read the thread title and immediately thought of cow farts!

Hilarious...


4 posted on 10/03/2007 3:04:37 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
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I think that a female whale IS called a cow................


5 posted on 10/03/2007 3:13:27 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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Gore’s hot air?


6 posted on 10/03/2007 3:14:51 PM PDT by magslinger (Submission? That's a bit of a problem!-Leonidas (300))
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NASA blames rapid decline in Arctic sea ice on 'unusual winds' (not greenhouse gases)

Yeah, sorry about that. Too many chimichangas.

7 posted on 10/03/2007 3:16:04 PM PDT by CougarGA7
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Uhhhhhh .... no.

sorry.

It’s all my fault.

Last time I was in California, I ate too much refried beans ...


8 posted on 10/03/2007 3:16:35 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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Nah, too far south to have an effect that far north.......must be too many Eskimos eating fermented fish......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermented_fish


9 posted on 10/03/2007 3:20:27 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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DANG...beat me to the draw slingerman....well that was too easy anyway...

haaahahah


10 posted on 10/03/2007 3:29:48 PM PDT by flat
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This must be the group of NASA scientists who, unlike the pure James Hansen, are funded by BIG OIL.


11 posted on 10/03/2007 3:36:06 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo (Earth - Taking care of itself since 4.6 billion BC)
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Anyway, in a news release from NASA Monday, a group of scientists have determined that unusual winds caused the rapid decline (23% loss) in winter perennial ice over the past two years in the northern hemisphere.

It appears that massive surges of hot air have been emanating from the east coast of the United States.

Specific concentrations have been traced back to federal government buildings in Washington D.C. and the United Nations building.

Scientists that have been receiving federal grants can find no explanation for this phenomena but are willing to conduct several studies in an attempt redouble their efforts to pinpoint the cause.

12 posted on 10/03/2007 4:13:38 PM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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Let’s not let science get in the way of “global warming”.


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14 posted on 10/03/2007 4:24:16 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments.)
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15 posted on 10/03/2007 5:30:59 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Fight the illegal Mexican colonizers & imperialist conquistadors! Long live the resistance!)
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And my first thought was “Hansen is gonna have a cow?!!!


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17 posted on 10/04/2007 3:35:38 AM PDT by xcamel (FDT/2008)
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I watched the sea ice decline very closely this summer using the MODIS polar orbiting satellites which provide real-time (untouched) visible pictures from space (ie. the global alarmers are not able to play with their software to generate alarmist ice extent maps.)

There was a significant melt this year, particularly in the western Arctic towards Siberia (and in the NorthWest passage area). The rest of the arctic was about normal.

What I noticed was that there was always a storm pushing north from Siberia towards to the North Pole this year. It almost looked like one continuous weather system pushing warm air and pushing ice towards the Pole.

So generally, I think this is a realistic report.


18 posted on 10/04/2007 4:52:22 AM PDT by JustDoItAlways
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I will bet this gets wide circulation in the DNC parrot media and they will likely ask the Goracle for comment.


19 posted on 10/04/2007 1:32:02 PM PDT by Tarpon
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Unfortunately, if the msm does cover this, they and the GW doomsters will view it as more proof of human-caused climate change. AGW`ers have already said changes in wind patterns and atmospheric pressures are caused by human activity.


20 posted on 10/05/2007 12:46:02 PM PDT by chessplayer
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