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27% of Republicans Would Vote for Pro-Life Third Party Instead of Giuliani (Proof Rudy CAN'T Win)
Rasmussen Reports ^ | 10-4-07 | Rasmussen Reports

Posted on 10/04/2007 9:38:23 AM PDT by TitansAFC

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To: TitansAFC

I know its easier to live in a world of black and white than have to made a choice among less than perfect alternatives. Really I do. I prefer making the easy choices too.

In the bubble that is FR, a lot of folks don’t realize that exactly the same thing is going on over on the Dem side. We regard Hillary as a radical socialist, but (believe it or not) for many of them she’s way too conservative, pro-business, and pro-war. Yet, thus far, I haven’t heard any anti-war candidate talk seriously about mounting a third party challenge. They understand what is at stake. When we understand it, then we will deserve to win.


201 posted on 10/04/2007 11:42:54 AM PDT by NKStarr
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To: Hydroshock

“I would rather put up with Hitlary for 4 years then rip the prolife plank out of the republican platform by electing Rino Rudy. IF he I nominated I am going thired party.”

Hydro, The spawn of Arlen Spector could be the nominee and the prolife plank will still remain. Split the Repub party and say goodbye to the 2nd Am., the military, maleness, and say hello to a further cultural infusion of homosexual acceptability, preferencial treatment, higher taxes, Jesse Jackson, the NEA, NOW, the acceleration of the feminization of our boys, Hollywood carte blanche...


202 posted on 10/04/2007 11:43:21 AM PDT by HockeyPop
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To: Ol' Sparky
You don't know that for a fact. But it is fact that Hillary Clinton would not appoint any judge willing to overturn Roe V. Wade.
203 posted on 10/04/2007 11:43:49 AM PDT by Stars&StripesNE (Liberals are the enemy within)
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To: TitansAFC; P-Marlowe; pissant
Ultimately, of course, some Republicans would have to face the question of whether to vote for Giuliani or help elect a Democrat.

What a biased comment!

Why not say, "Ultimately, of course, some Republicans would have to face the question of whether to vote NOMINATE for Giuliani or AND help elect a Democrat."

204 posted on 10/04/2007 11:44:07 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: Dudoight
Here we go again. Conservative third party puts another Clinton in the White House.

Smart move.


Here we go again. The GOP alienates conservatives by abandoning conservative principles to appease and compromise with the socialist left and then blames the end result on Conservatives.

Smart move.
205 posted on 10/04/2007 11:44:12 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: HockeyPop

We will get about the same with Rino Rudy.


206 posted on 10/04/2007 11:46:03 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: TitansAFC

abortion has and will kill many more Americans than terrorism has or will and thats alright with Giuliani.


207 posted on 10/04/2007 11:47:09 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: All

The main question for the 2008 elections is whether or not the American people want to elect a socialist who will install a socialist government and implement socialist policies.

Proof there won’t be any third party candidate — Perot was a fluke and Bloomberg found no support. Bloomberg was Hillary Matters “Perot”, got to get the winning vote under 50% so a Democrat could win.


208 posted on 10/04/2007 11:47:19 AM PDT by Tarpon
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To: joonbug
"Like a Ginsburg or Breyer or a Janet Reno?"

Of course not. I much prefer a Republican appointed Souter or Stevens like you apparently do. /s

209 posted on 10/04/2007 11:47:30 AM PDT by penowa
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To: Bob J
Is it just me

Yes, its just you.

Reagan actually won in spite of REPUBLICAN John Anderson splitting the GOP. Peeling off all the liberal republican votes. Reagan won with conservatives. Republican and Democrat.

GWB won because Nader calved off enough of Gore's votes to make a difference in several key states.

LOL! Bogus. Try Buchanan's Independence Party and the other parties also again peeling votes from the GOP. W won in spite of that. With razor-thin margins in many middle states, winning or losing... the third parties cut both ways. Maybe not always equally, but your views are clearly revisionist and frankly devoid of merit. You must not have lived through the elections of the 70's and 80s and don't know what a struggle conservatism has had to gain ascendancy within the GOP...which has only been lost due to betrayal !

As for what you are imputing to me:

.exactly what you're planning on doing, in reverse, but neither do you see or are willing to admit it

Can't and won't admit what I am not DOING. I want a housecleaning of the GOP, to restore the Reagan Conservative majority...and oust every single CFR enemy of that coalition of nationalists.

210 posted on 10/04/2007 11:47:58 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: TitansAFC
A survey conducted earlier this month found that 72% of Republicans think Giuliani is at least Somewhat Likely to win the White House if nominated. However, the current survey finds that number falling to 58% if Christian conservatives back a third-party option.

I will not vote for Rudy whether there's a third party or not.

It's so close that he doesn't need to lose 14% of the vote to lose to Hillary. He needs to lose only about 2-3%. And he will lose that.

211 posted on 10/04/2007 11:48:04 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: chuckles
Fortunately I am not a one issue voter. I try to look at the big picture. Rudy isn't my first choice, but he would get my vote over any Democrat running.

Look outside the box...... It will be Hillary if the GOP splits and votes on the pro-life issue as their main qualifier for who they pull the lever for.

I think the war on terror should be the main issue in the next election. If Hillary gets in, we may not survive as a nation.

212 posted on 10/04/2007 11:48:04 AM PDT by Stars&StripesNE (Liberals are the enemy within)
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To: Dudoight
Good thinking. You don’t care if Hillary wins. That says it all!

Ah yes, let's blindly vote for a socialist in the GOP instead of a socialist in the Demorat party. Great Strategy.
213 posted on 10/04/2007 11:48:26 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Ol' Sparky
McCain was the running as moderate and attack Christian conservatives. McCain was the one trying to lure independents to vote for him because conservatives were backing Bush. Bush was viewed as the conservative in the 2000 primaries

Essentially correct, but I would replace that label "moderate" with the more accurate, LIBERAL. Bush was also definitely out-flanked on the conservative side of the ledger badly by Alan Keyes who dramatically outed both the other two. But due to his failed efforts at fund-raising he could not compete.

Wish it weren't that way. But that was the way it went down.

214 posted on 10/04/2007 11:51:38 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Bob J

The Republicans need to win CA, and NY to win Presidential elections? Where did you come up with that?


215 posted on 10/04/2007 11:52:33 AM PDT by penowa
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To: Jen's Mom
I am rather disgusted the the attitudes of people who are so blinded by their hatred of Rudy that they obviously don't give a rat's patoot that their arrogance is in Hillary's favor.

The arrogance starts with the GOP itself so intent on sucking up to the socialist RATS over the years by compromising Conservative principles that the party has alienated Conservatives and then blame them for an outcome based on assumption.
216 posted on 10/04/2007 11:52:53 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: what's up
Many conservative actions have taken place under this President.

Such as?

Your many explanations of why these don't indicate conservative progress don't negate that.

Yes they do. I have barely BEGUN to list all the betrayals committed by this phoney.

217 posted on 10/04/2007 11:52:58 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Strategerist

“It’s proof that a Pro-Life third party would be idiotic, not proof that Rudy can’t win.”

So I take it that you would have no problem sacrificing your principles? Or, maybe you don’t have any...


218 posted on 10/04/2007 11:53:45 AM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: Paul Ross
Such as?

Listed them already in response to a comment that "nothing conservative" has been going on.

Read the thread.

219 posted on 10/04/2007 11:54:23 AM PDT by what's up
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To: Bob J
"Is it just me or have IQ's on FR dropped precipitously?"

It's just you. LOL! Don't get mad, I couldn't help it.

220 posted on 10/04/2007 11:57:01 AM PDT by penowa
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