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27% of Republicans Would Vote for Pro-Life Third Party Instead of Giuliani (Proof Rudy CAN'T Win)
Rasmussen Reports ^ | 10-4-07 | Rasmussen Reports

Posted on 10/04/2007 9:38:23 AM PDT by TitansAFC

If Rudy Giuliani wins the Republican nomination and a third party campaign is backed by Christian conservative leaders, 27% of Republican voters say they’d vote for the third party option rather than Giuliani. A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that a three-way race with Hillary Clinton would end up with the former First Lady getting 46% of the vote, Giuliani with 30% and the third-party option picking up 14%. In head-to-head match-ups with Clinton, Giuliani is much more competitive.

Over this past weekend, several Christian conservative leaders indicated they might back a pro-life, third-party, candidate if Giuliani wins the nomination.

The latest poll highlights the potential challenges for Giuliani, but the numbers must be considered in context. A generic third-party candidate may attract 14% of the vote in the abstract at this time. However, if a specific candidate is chosen, that person would likely attract less support due to a variety of factors. Almost all third party candidates poll higher earlier in a campaign and their numbers diminish as election day approaches. Ultimately, of course, some Republicans would have to face the question of whether to vote for Giuliani or help elect a Democrat.

The telephone survey found that 17% of Republicans believe it’s Very Likely conservative leaders would back a Pro-Life candidate if Giuliani is nominated. Another 32% believe it is Somewhat Likely. Among all voters, 22% think a third party approach is Very Likely and another 33% say it’s Somewhat Likely.

Most Republican voters consider themselves Pro-Life on the issue of Abortion. Most Democrats and Unaffiliated Voters are Pro-Choice.

The bigger question for Giuliani might be how this possible challenge from the right might affect perceptions of his electability. Currently, Giuliani is seen as the most electable Republican candidate which helps overcome concerns that some have about his ideology. A survey conducted earlier this month found that 72% of Republicans think Giuliani is at least Somewhat Likely to win the White House if nominated. However, the current survey finds that number falling to 58% if Christian conservatives back a third-party option.

With a third-party option on the table, only 18% of Republicans believe Giuliani would be Very Likely to win the election if nominated. That’s down from 31% in a two-way race.

Among all voters, 49% say Giuliani is at least Somewhat Likely to win a two-way match-up. That falls to 43% with a third party candidate in the mix.

Electability is a crucial issue for Giuliani because two-thirds of Republican voters seen him as politically moderate or liberal. That is a challenge unto itself in a political party where most primary voters consider themselves politically conservative. Fred Thompson is currently viewed as the most conservative candidate in the field.

Three of the last four Presidential elections have seen a candidate win with less than 50% of the total votes cast. If Hillary Clinton wins the Democratic Presidential nomination, there is a very reasonable possibility that neither major party candidate would top the 50% mark in Election 2008. With such a scenario, third party candidates on either side of the political spectrum could play a significant role by peeling away one or two percentage points of the vote.

Clinton is currently leading the race for the Democratic Presidential nomination, but her victory is not inevitable. Among Republicans, Thompson and Giuliani lead in the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll.

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To: roses of sharon
Pro-Life advocates are not idiots, there will be no third party created by them.

No, it will be a bait-and-switch. Paul was created by anti-war leftists. After the primaries, he'll be re-packaged as the pro-lifer's only alternative to Ghouliani.

The only way to throw a monkey wrench into this plot is to nominate anyone but Rudy.

21 posted on 10/04/2007 9:56:11 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (We didn't "win" the Cold War. We had a half-time lead.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Paul already said he won’t run as a 3rd party or independent candidate regardless who’s nominated, so your speculation is moot.

22 posted on 10/04/2007 9:57:01 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Congratulations Brett Favre! NFL's all-time touchdown leader)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
A Rudy nomination would kill the GOP.

I suspect you knew that when you were supporting him a few months ago. Just as you understand Ron Paul's purpose now.

23 posted on 10/04/2007 9:57:26 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (We didn't "win" the Cold War. We had a half-time lead.)
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To: inkling
-—”Just like the geniuses who decided Bush 1 wasn’t conservative enough and either sat out or supported Ross Perot.
Those pure “conservatives” gave America eight years of Bubba. Good job guys!”-—

This is different. Bush I looks like Rush Limbaugh compared to Rudy911. Rudy911 is a whole new universe of leftism in the GOP.

24 posted on 10/04/2007 9:57:51 AM PDT by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: TitansAFC

The Republicans have no one to blame but themselves if they dump social conservatives for Guiliani and lose. I will not vote for Rudy.

25 posted on 10/04/2007 9:58:55 AM PDT by Pinkbell (Duncan Hunter 2008 - Protecting and Restoring America)
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To: TitansAFC; Admin Moderator

How do I get this thread put on the sidebar? it seems rather important, all things considered.

26 posted on 10/04/2007 10:00:14 AM PDT by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: TitansAFC

PROOF that 27% of Republicans are IDIOTS

27 posted on 10/04/2007 10:00:29 AM PDT by ulm1 (GOPers who will not support the nominee, whoever it may be, GUARANTEE a HILLARY Presidency! Wake up)
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To: Strategerist
Absolutely, and it will not be a pro-life or values group, who are extremely sane, and unselfish.

The opposite is other rightwing/leftwing/anti-Israel type group, they will run their usual suspects.

28 posted on 10/04/2007 10:01:20 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Strategerist

It’s proof that a Pro-Life third party would be idiotic, not proof that Rudy can’t win.”

My take:

If we are not safe in the USA because of the terrorists who wish to take us back to the 7th century, then what difference does it make arguing about being Pro-life or not?

The terrorists won’t be allowing any such discussions. They want ALL of us dead, young/old rich/poor male/female short/tall thin/fat
They don’t care.
They have absolute no PRO-LIFE agenda in any part of their plans.

We are truly fiddling while Rome burns, IMO.

Give my a candidate who won’t put up with the BS from the radicals. One who recognizes trouble and works hard to eradicate it for good. Fred Thompson for President and Rudy for Homeland Security would suit me just fine. I think they would make a formidable pair. Get the woooosies out of the way and conduct business like this is really a war, because that is exactly what it is.

29 posted on 10/04/2007 10:01:31 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Good thinking.

You don’t care if Hillary wins. That says it all!

30 posted on 10/04/2007 10:02:05 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: TitansAFC
Rudy911 is a whole new universe of leftism in the GOP.

You're primarily concerned with protecting the GOP. I'm primarily concerned with protecting America.

No President Hillary.

31 posted on 10/04/2007 10:02:17 AM PDT by inkling (
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To: inkling

Since third parties never win and our system only allows for voting for the lesser of two evils in the general elections I’ll be holding my nose and voting for Rudy if he’s the only prospective candidate capable of defeating Hitlery in the general election. I’s rather win than make a point.

32 posted on 10/04/2007 10:02:22 AM PDT by vigilence
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To: Dudoight
I too find it hard to swallow that the people in the GOP would be that stupid to form a third party thinking they could actually win.

Hillary would win in a landslide if that happens. If Christian Conservatives insist on this, they are ensuring 8 more years of the Clintons.

I am rather disgusted the the attitudes of people who are so blinded by their hatred of Rudy that they obviously don't give a rat's patoot that their arrogance is in Hillary's favor. She's banking on the Useful Idiots of the Republican Party to push her over the top. Looks like she outsmarted them again.

33 posted on 10/04/2007 10:02:36 AM PDT by Stars&StripesNE (Liberals are the enemy within)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Either you’re stunningly naive, or you think we’re all as dense as cheesecake.

In the history of American politics, has a candidate for his party’s nomination ever announced his third party contingency plans in the middle of the primary? Ever?

I’ll give you a hint: the answer is “no”.

34 posted on 10/04/2007 10:03:30 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (We didn't "win" the Cold War. We had a half-time lead.)
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To: 3AngelaD

“Meanwhile, Mrs. Clinton is inviting the decorators into the White House to measure for the new window treatments.”

The news on the vine says Laura already helped her put them up last weekend. ;)

35 posted on 10/04/2007 10:03:43 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: TitansAFC

Just think how well a prominent third-party candidate could do if Giuliani were the Republican nominee..

36 posted on 10/04/2007 10:04:13 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: TitansAFC

I was thinking 30% and that’s what I’ve been posting, so my guess was not far off. I am assuming that the 3rd party runs a “nothing” candidate like Gary Bauer. If they came up with someone semi-credible, it could go higher IMO.

37 posted on 10/04/2007 10:05:33 AM PDT by penowa
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To: TitansAFC; Admin Moderator

It’s incredibly important. This 27% is the whole ball game.

We can’t let Rudy win this nomination. Period.

38 posted on 10/04/2007 10:05:39 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (We didn't "win" the Cold War. We had a half-time lead.)
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To: TitansAFC
So, let's see.

Not gonna vote R, because the candidate is not conservative enough. ok, so we will vote 3rd party, because, you know, that candidate is more conservative, because, we, you konw, need to stand firm on the issues, because we care about the unborn.

So, we will vote 3rd party, and therefore, because of our vote, the most liberal candidate, her royal highness, will become president, and THEN the voters will get what they deserve, a president who will appoint abortion activist judges from the SC down to the municipal level, not to mention rubber stamping EVERYTHING Ried, and Pelosi come up with

That will show em, yeah.

Oh, and our cause, just as it is, will be advanced light years.

39 posted on 10/04/2007 10:06:05 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: TitansAFC

I understand your loathing of Rudy. I’m just saying that any third party effort such as you describe works to Mrs. Clinton’s benefit, and in the long run, she will do much more damage to pro-life efforts, with, for instance, her Supreme Court nominees, than Rudy ever could. Of course, Republicans could always nominate Fred. I see no logical reason to “work night and day to make sure” Mrs. Clinton elected, regardless of how good and virtuous that makes you feel. Her election would be a disaster for the country on several different levels.

40 posted on 10/04/2007 10:06:10 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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