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27% of Republicans Would Vote for Pro-Life Third Party Instead of Giuliani (Proof Rudy CAN'T Win)
Rasmussen Reports ^ | 10-4-07 | Rasmussen Reports

Posted on 10/04/2007 9:38:23 AM PDT by TitansAFC

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To: Designer; TitansAFC
However, if you look at it from a different angle, namely; put pressure on the Republican leadership to dump Rudy and any other pro-death candidate, then everybody wins!

I like the way you put this.

TitansAFC, maybe that should be the "Dump Rudy" ping list. ;-)

401 posted on 10/04/2007 6:56:48 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: TitansAFC
OK, I looked back, it appears you were posting to NKStarr and not me.

But to your dramatic post, I think that since we are at war in two theaters, most Republicans and Conservatives would for sure vote for a candidate that has the temperament, tone, attitude, a certain ruthlessness, and foreign policy ideas to fight our enemies abroad, being that we have boots on the ground right now, at this moment.

And that in no way comes close the Hillary and Bill Clinton, and does reflect whomever of our viable candidates is nominated.

A serious, mature, and rational voter, (which most Conservatives are), will not just ask who they are voting for, but also ask who they will ELECT.

So, obviously I’m sticking with the good guys, lol, and not participating in the election of a antiamerican party member, ie, Dimocrats like Hill and Bill.

402 posted on 10/04/2007 6:58:40 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Designer

Bullhockey.

I will vote for the republican nominee no matter who it is. And the tactics that the anti Rudy people are using sicken me. If the alternative weren’t Hillary Clinton I would quit the republican party, quit voting and say to hell with all of you.

I will put no pressure on the republican leadership in the name of you loonies!


403 posted on 10/04/2007 6:58:50 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Designer

Track back to the original question at #133—it was a hypothetical to try to prove a point (one that the intended respondent wouldn’t answer)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1906547/posts?page=133#133


404 posted on 10/04/2007 7:00:01 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Bob J
Reagan won because Anderson split the dem vote with Carter.

Is it just me or have IQ's on FR dropped precipitously?

Not true, Reagan got over 50% of the vote.....even with Anderson not being in the race Reagan wins.

I remember this and I was just in Jr. high. You might want to go and find a site that has the old numbers.

405 posted on 10/04/2007 7:03:07 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: All

Bottom line is we have to ALL vote for the one who will beat Klinton or else we can kiss this country good by.That’s the whole story for me . As horrible as abortion is even worse will be Klinton in the White House . t will indirectly cause more deaths than one can imagine ( Islamic attacks , Iraq killing fields ect.)PLUS all the abortions will continue.Th esupreme court will decide abortion not the president wo is elected.


406 posted on 10/04/2007 7:03:17 PM PDT by sonic109
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To: cajungirl; stockstrader

Loonies?

People that want a pro-freedom, pro-gun, pro-life, pro-traditional marriage President who doesn’t have a record of abusing the Constitution and appointing liberals to the courts and corrupt cronies to their administration are “Loonies”?


407 posted on 10/04/2007 7:03:17 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
"I like the way you put this."

Thank you!

408 posted on 10/04/2007 7:04:27 PM PDT by Designer
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To: cajungirl
"I will put no pressure on the republican leadership.."

O.K., just let them pressure you instead.

409 posted on 10/04/2007 7:08:35 PM PDT by Designer
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To: Ol' Sparky
...liberalism had advanced more under George W. Bush than it ever did under Bill Clinton...

Who did Bill Clinton nominate to the SC and who did Bush nominate? Are you saying you'd rather have Clinton than Bush if you were able to choose between the two???

410 posted on 10/04/2007 7:09:22 PM PDT by Proudcongal
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To: calcowgirl
"..it was a hypothetical.."

Oh, I see now. Thanks.

411 posted on 10/04/2007 7:10:29 PM PDT by Designer
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To: Strategerist

“It’s proof that a Pro-Life third party would be idiotic, not proof that Rudy can’t win.”

What an assinine statement. There are a great many of us “moral” conservatives that absolutely will not vote for Rudy the Rumpranger in a general election...even against Senator Clinton....We just don’t see the significant difference.

Bottom line....AND GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD....a vote for Guiliani is a vote for the destruction of the Republican party. The “moral voters” (the party’s base) will not vote for Rudolph...EVER. With the base of the party ready to stay home or vote third party if Rudy is the republican candidate.....he has NO chance of winning in a general election. If one wants to maintain the coalition that is the Republican Party, then Guiliani must go.


412 posted on 10/04/2007 7:16:19 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: sonic109
"Th esupreme court will decide abortion not the president wo is elected."

See, now there's another thing. I get so tired of seeing this bogus statement.

FYI: Congress has the power to limit the Court's jurisdiction in this matter as well as any other specific area of the law.

Congress could, if it would, simply remove that hot-button issue from the federal courts. Then of course, it would remain for the state courts to rule on each state's own laws.

Now that we all know were the real responsibility lies, we can all go convince our Congressman and Senators to do the right thing.

No President needed.

No "test case" needed.

No majority on the Supreme court needed.

Just some backbone, guts, and huevos in Congress.

413 posted on 10/04/2007 7:20:08 PM PDT by Designer
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To: ulm1

“PROOF that 27% of Republicans are IDIOTS”

No, it’s proof that 27% of Republicans have taken a principled stand. Those of you that keep backing Guiliani are just plain ole prideful fools.

The fact that Guiliani could have progressed this far indicates that maybe it really is time to start a more trully conservative new party. Personnally, I’m sick to my soul of “Goldwater Republicans.”


414 posted on 10/04/2007 7:23:28 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Jen's Mom

NOW is the time to change that which we can.


415 posted on 10/04/2007 7:26:49 PM PDT by Grunthor (I'd be Catholic but I don't speak latin and don't wanna learn just to go to church.)
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To: vin-one

“Can you say hello President Clinton. thanks to the 27% of Christians who would rather have a communist dictator, than Rudy.”

How utterly dense can someone be. Rudy is a homophile, a gungrabber, and worse a baby killer. He ran NYC like a dictatorship. So, what is the significant difference between him and Mrs. Clinton? They are both bad news. No lesser evil here at all. Keep hurling insults at principled Christian voters and you just further the rift in the party. IF the party is SO important, then ditch Rudy. Without the base, he cannot win.


416 posted on 10/04/2007 7:28:00 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: TitansAFC

Sorry if this has been asked, but who might this third-party candidate be? Any ideas. Otherwise, it’s kind of silly to speculate on all this. It’s unlikely a conservative Republican is going to leave the party just to make a point in the election, assuring a Hillary victory. Of course, Rudy will probably choose a pro-life running mate.


417 posted on 10/04/2007 7:29:24 PM PDT by Proudcongal
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To: Mariner

“Rudy will have this nomination locked up by Feb...”

Then Mrs. Clinton will be sure to be elected in November 2008. The Republican party will lose 1/3 of the real stalwarts and it will cease to be viable.


418 posted on 10/04/2007 7:32:09 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: bassmaner

“Think Rudy will be bad? Consider the alternative. I rest my case.”

No dice, I won’t vote for that vile person. His presidency will be no better than a Clinton one.

IF you really cared about the country, you would TELL RUDY NOT TO RUN. Plus, you wouldn’t vote for him either.

The battle lines are drawn and they a getting more set. A vote for Rudy is a vote for Hillary to be president....plain fact.


419 posted on 10/04/2007 7:38:38 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas
No dice, I won’t vote for that vile person. His presidency will be no better than a Clinton one.

You rabidly anti-Rudy types keep spouting this nonsense yet it has no basis with reality. You are so overcome with Rudy Derangement Syndrome that you're showing no better rationality than the far left.

In case you are unable to grasp the difference, just look at Rudy's foreign policy views vs. Hillary's and think about the difference in judicial picks.

420 posted on 10/04/2007 7:46:35 PM PDT by scarface367 (The problem is we have yet to find a cure for stupid)
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