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27% of Republicans Would Vote for Pro-Life Third Party Instead of Giuliani (Proof Rudy CAN'T Win)
Rasmussen Reports ^ | 10-4-07 | Rasmussen Reports

Posted on 10/04/2007 9:38:23 AM PDT by TitansAFC

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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Bloomberg was trying to reduce the vote totals for Republicans so that Hillary Matters could win with a 43% vote total like BJ did. Only problem he found zero support among anyone, except Democrats. Hence he dropped the whole notion of wasting money to try and help out Hillary Matters.

Dobson will find the same fate.


301 posted on 10/04/2007 1:35:55 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Dear Lucius Cornelius Sulla,

On the off chance that he might peek in from time to time, I pinged him.

He was quite insistent that hardly any social conservatives would abandon the baby murderer, should he receive the nomination.


sitetest

302 posted on 10/04/2007 1:38:29 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
I'll not place a vote based on what I think the religious right's reaction will be.

If find it offensive that they are threatening the party with CERTAIN defeat if they don't get their way.

To hell with them. I wish they'd all leave now so we can start the process of reformulation.

303 posted on 10/04/2007 1:41:31 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: tellw
Giuliani could promise to appoint J. Michael Luttig

The thing is, he never would...
...make any such promise.
...keep it if he made it.

Courageous like Abraham, America's Major: Rudy Giuliani could save our civilization from the terrorist hordes. And Abraham saved Sodom and Gomorrah for what??? Gay Pride? Divine annihilation?

I can't vote for the man.

304 posted on 10/04/2007 1:42:10 PM PDT by Theophilus (Nothing can make Americans safer than to stop aborting them.)
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To: going hot
the next eight years of hell

Better eight years than a thousand years.

305 posted on 10/04/2007 1:44:45 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (IF TREASON IS THE QUESTION, THEN MOVEON.ORG IS THE ANSWER!)
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To: Mariner
"..the religious right..To hell with them."

Pinging the religious right.

306 posted on 10/04/2007 1:46:17 PM PDT by Designer
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To: davidlachnicht
they also pick a platform

The Platform, you mean that document that nobody ever reads, and immediately vanishes from living memory? And a convention of Giuliani delegates, about to nominate Rudy, will write a platform opposing almost everythinmg he stands for and which he will promptly repudiate! Give me a break!!

307 posted on 10/04/2007 1:49:34 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (IF TREASON IS THE QUESTION, THEN MOVEON.ORG IS THE ANSWER!)
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To: TitansAFC
So called "conservatives" (statists to me) should start your party now.

Rudy will have this nomination locked up by Feb...Thompson might win a few southern states, but everything west of the rockies...and everything north of the Mason-Dixon will go to Rudy in the primaries...along with most of the mid-west.

308 posted on 10/04/2007 1:54:17 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: penowa

“Let me know when you’re ready to discuss the bridge sale.

You mean the Rudy “bridge to somewhere” versus the Hillary “bridge to nowhere”?


309 posted on 10/04/2007 1:54:18 PM PDT by joonbug
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To: Mariner

Nobody’s threatening anything. Conservatives are just restating what should be a given: we don’t vote for liberals.

If you’d like to nominate a liberal, go ahead. Just don’t act all betrayed when we don’t vote for him and he gets slaughtered in the general.

This isn’t real complicated stuff.


310 posted on 10/04/2007 1:54:20 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (We didn't "win" the Cold War. We had a half-time lead.)
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To: Ol' Sparky
And, we know the history of electing such liberal Republicans to office -- from Christie Todd Whitman to Michael Bloomberg to Arnold Schwarzenegger -- has been total failure.

You can include Connecticut Governor Jodi Rell in that socialist GOP crowd.
311 posted on 10/04/2007 1:57:31 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Man50D

They never seem to have the answeres for those kind of questions.

(note; did not ping the other participant in the debate as I was not referring “just” to him)


312 posted on 10/04/2007 1:58:01 PM PDT by Grunthor (I'd be Catholic but I don't speak latin and don't wanna learn just to go to church.)
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To: All

If it turns out that the conservative vote for POTUS is split b/t the GOP and a pro-life third party come-lately...

WE HAD BETTER BE DAMNED CERTAIN TO GET CONTROL OF THE HOUSE AND SENATE!!!!

This thread is a perfect representative proof that the GOP would lose the Whitehouse. And to use FR as a representative sampling is to use some of the most conservative of GOP voters to survey. If the most conservative voters would split the vote, then...well then...Mene Mene Tarkel Uparshin...numbered, numbered, weighed, divided...the Republic will fall into the hands of the enemies of freedom.

I am strongly pro-life and do not desire to cast asparagus upon other pro-life folks who would vote their conscience. Hell I’ve done it and in hindsight I was wrong to do so. However, in the event of a 3rd party split, I’d HAVE to support the GOP. America is the last flickering light of freedom’s hope upon the planet. We ARE the free world. If the socialists take over the USA that light is put out.

We had better be willing to get off of our arses and stomp the pavement for votes to win back the two houses.

We must hold back this tide of leftists. Rush said it well yesterday when he said that these people CANNOT be allowed to take over our government. If they do, we may never get it back.

These are not John F. Kennedy democrats, these are statists, leftists, socialists, anarchists, and one-step-away-from-communists.

The congressional reigns on the beast better be tight and short, or we could lose the Republic to her Leftist Socialist Utopia.


313 posted on 10/04/2007 1:58:41 PM PDT by woollyone (whyquit.com ...if you think you can't quit, you're simply not informed yet.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
You're right. It's not complicated.

Social conservative are not and have never been reliable GOP voters.

314 posted on 10/04/2007 2:00:09 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Bob J
Guili can be restrained by his party and the party's members.

Yeah, right. Folks used the same argument with Schwarzenegger who has joined with Democrats in implementing their agenda and marginalizing conservatives all the way.

The way to fight liberalism is to be strongly aligned against it, not let it into your own backyard.

315 posted on 10/04/2007 2:00:40 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Tarpon

I’m not sure what Dobson has to do with anything. Until this post, I don’t think I’ve ever even mentioned the man’s name here.

But don’t let that fact interfere with the pro-abort republicrat fantasy that all pro-lifers sit around eagerly awaiting James Dobson’s voting instructions. If that makes things nice, neat and easy to understand for you, have at it.


316 posted on 10/04/2007 2:00:48 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (We didn't "win" the Cold War. We had a half-time lead.)
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To: longtermmemmory

“Also if we wanted to prevent fraud, we should have been watching the voting machines from day before yesterday. (so to speak)”

And, on top of that, the Dems won’t count all of the military votes.


317 posted on 10/04/2007 2:01:39 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: TitansAFC
A thought for all you Rudy-phobes on this thread: the 'Rat party has been taken over by Stalinists. This means that if you sit this election out or vote 3rd party, she will win.

And don't fool yourselves about 'winning back Congress in 2010' or 'winning back the White House in 2012'. It ain't gonna happen: Stalin-in-a-pants-suit will rig the system to prevent it. Here's how:

1. Impose the Fairness Doctrine by executive order to shut down talk radio (silence the opposition)
2. Expand entitlements to create a majority dependent on government services (guaranteed 'Rat voting bloc)
3. Ram through an illegal alien amnesty that will make GWB's failed 'comprehensive' bill seem conservative (another guaranteed 'Rat voting bloc)

That's just for starters. And God forbid we'd get hit with a terrorist attack on her watch: the first thing she'll do is take away guns from law-abiding citizens. Then she'll make Muslims a protected class and prosecute anyone who says anything negative about them under hate-crimes laws.

After 8 years of her reign, we will no longer recognize the United States of America.

Think Rudy will be bad? Consider the alternative. I rest my case.

318 posted on 10/04/2007 2:02:00 PM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: joonbug
Given the alternatives, I’ll take my chances with Rudy (or Romney or Thompson) versus any of the Dems... If I’m on the roof of my burning house, I’ll take my chances jumping off (and breaking bones) rather than the sure thing of incinerating...

What alternative? A socialist is a socialist regardless of whether there is an R or D after the name! You present a poor analogy. The appropriate analogy is jumping from the fire into the frying pan.
319 posted on 10/04/2007 2:09:22 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: joonbug
Given the alternatives, I’ll take my chances with Rudy (or Romney or Thompson) versus any of the Dems... If I’m on the roof of my burning house, I’ll take my chances jumping off (and breaking bones) rather than the sure thing of incinerating...

What alternative? A socialist is a socialist regardless of whether there is an R or D after the name! You present a poor analogy. The appropriate analogy is jumping from the fire into the frying pan.
320 posted on 10/04/2007 2:09:35 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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