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In soldiers' shoes [Soldiers Shot Mom and Convoy Runs Over Baby Multiple Times]
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | 10/4/07 | Stephan Salisbury

Posted on 10/04/2007 10:52:42 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul

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There is just one part of an ongoing attempt to smear the military serving today the way they smeared the Vietnam veterans as psychotic baby killers.

The baby killer smear from the 60s is the result of the Winter Soldier "investigation" run by the Vietnam Veterans Against the War with Jane Fonda's help.

Wesley Clark has a big part to play in the current smear. He's the "senior leader" for a group called the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans for America. That group arranged most of the interviews for an article in THE NATION magazine that concluded that unwarranted shootings of Iraqi civilians was rampant.

Their plan is to publish a book called "Collateral Damage" which would be the basis for the babykiller smear against this generation, the way "Winter Solider" smeared the Vietnam generation.

The Iraq Veterans Against the War are modelled after and mentored by the Vietnam Veterans Against the War. The Vietnam Veterans Against the War and their Student Chapter must not be allowed to smear TWO generations of veterans.

1 posted on 10/04/2007 10:52:47 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul
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To: Owl_Eagle

Temple Ping!!


2 posted on 10/04/2007 10:53:54 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.../ Get well Soon John Force!!!)
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To: Doctor Raoul

These kids need to get a job.

Good grief, our colleges are encouraging men to become like their female counterparts.

Snivelers.


3 posted on 10/04/2007 10:56:50 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Doctor Raoul

More patriotic Democrats supporting the troops.


4 posted on 10/04/2007 10:57:04 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler ("A person's a person no matter how small." -Dr. Seuss)
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To: Doctor Raoul
"You draw your own conclusions," he said. "We're not saying the war's bad. We're not saying the war's good." Sean Lally, 20, a junior, broke in: "It's about the truth."

SUUUUUURE. Treasonous crapheads.

5 posted on 10/04/2007 10:57:42 AM PDT by SolidWood ("I knew my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol.")
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To: Doctor Raoul

Were any lying non-”soldiers” like Jesse Macbeth interviewed?


6 posted on 10/04/2007 10:57:47 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

God bless those soldiers who have to make terrible life or death judgements in the blink of an eye, and God d*mn those who seek to denigrate and mock their service to their country.


7 posted on 10/04/2007 10:57:51 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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To: Doctor Raoul

They are on shaky ground with their dramatization if read up on the trial of Axis Sally.


8 posted on 10/04/2007 10:59:01 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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But they have entered the war and these voices of the war by literally listening to the raw audio tapes ....

I hate writing like this. "Literally listening?" As opposed to what ... figuratively listening to the tapes?

9 posted on 10/04/2007 11:00:30 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Doctor Raoul

Someone needs to do a little investigation on this Herold Noel.


10 posted on 10/04/2007 11:02:24 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: Doctor Raoul

“It’s about the truth.”

There are lies of misrepresentation, whether they be stated falsehoods or lies by ommission.

This isn’t about truth. It is about condemning the war. One of the other actors said (s)he was ignorant about such matters and changed his/her view after doing SOME reading. How much balance was there in the materials presented to this young mind full of mush?

Question authority. Not just the authority of those elected but also of those insisting that you question authority.


11 posted on 10/04/2007 11:02:33 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: roses of sharon
These kids need to get a job

NO. They need to be sent to the theater - the REAL one - where they can learn firsthand that which they write about.

That's what an honest writer does - all else is hearsay and/or an attempt to garner 15 minutes of fame on the backs of others...

I hope the fact that it's TEMPLE will not deter righteous attack.


12 posted on 10/04/2007 11:03:29 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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I wonder how many of Rush’s critics have listen to the raw audio tapes. Rush has put them online for free.


13 posted on 10/04/2007 11:03:55 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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Were any lying non-”soldiers” like Jesse Macbeth interviewed?

I think from now on he should be referenced by his birth name, Jesse al-Zaid.

14 posted on 10/04/2007 11:05:02 AM PDT by agrace
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Michael Moore never has been inside Iraq or Afghanistan, has he? It was a second unit film crew that interviewed Nick Berg in Iraq.


15 posted on 10/04/2007 11:05:14 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: Doctor Raoul
Sean Lally, 20, a junior, broke in: "It's about the truth."

Oh, B.S., you little snot. You know absolutely nothing about the reality of war and you're doing just like the nice lefty professors are teaching you: Lie, twist and distort to support your own lefty-agenda.

16 posted on 10/04/2007 11:07:58 AM PDT by Allegra ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
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"senior Ethan Haymes, 22. "But one thing that I really admired about both of my characters is that they were both men of action - Army Capt. Jon Soltz and..."

I thought Jon Soltz was a truck dispatcher for only like 3-4 months in Iraq? That's hardly a "man of action!"

PHONY STATUS OF SOLDIER ALERT!!!

*note, I did not call him a phony soldier, I called his status phony.

17 posted on 10/04/2007 11:08:36 AM PDT by avacado
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To: wideawake
Googled the name. 829 hits. He is also represented very well in the picture department. Here are two -

He seems to be quite the media darling and has been found by every liberal media outlet. Is there group or organization that can check out his story?

18 posted on 10/04/2007 11:13:47 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: Doctor Raoul
Must've of coauthored with Spc Beaucamp...Pure fiction


19 posted on 10/04/2007 11:16:01 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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“What could distinguish these Temple University theater students - humping from class to class, hanging out, diving into bull sessions - from their doubles hunkered down in Baghdad, staring down a blasted Fallujah street, gulping a Coke on a shadeless day?”

“humping from class to class”!!!

Only someone that is absolutely clueless would equate, via the use of the term “humping”, carrying schoolbooks between classes and being out on patrol in Indian country.


20 posted on 10/04/2007 11:17:07 AM PDT by FMBass ("Now that I'm sober I watch a lot of news"- Garofalo from Coulter's "Treason")
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