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Christians for Self-Defeat
Townhall.com ^ | October 5, 2007 | Kathleen Parker

Posted on 10/05/2007 5:16:07 AM PDT by Kaslin

WASHINGTON -- Evangelical Christians never had it so good, but they seem not to know it. Instead of supporting the candidate who most shares their values -- Mitt Romney -- they seem hell-bent for the proverbial cliff.

Meeting recently in Salt Lake City, conservative Christian leaders almost unanimously approved a resolution to support a third-party candidate if neither major party nominates someone who is pro-life.

To their credit, these leaders are unwilling to sacrifice conviction for political expediency, but they may be creating their own worst nightmare by dividing the party and making a Democratic victory more likely.

James Dobson, founder and chairman of Focus on the Family, explained in a New York Times op-ed Thursday that Christian leaders believe any presidential candidate has to commit to traditional moral values, including the sanctity of human life, the institution of marriage and other pro-family principles.

Minimally, that means anti-Roe v. Wade, no same-sex marriage, no government funding for destruction of human life at any stage and no pro-sex education. These weren't controversial ideas a generation ago, but today they can make or break a candidate in a party whose political base is 30 percent evangelical Christian.

Perfection is a tough standard and hardly anyone is just right. John McCain has a perfect pro-life record, but he supports federal funding for embryonic stem cell research. He also doesn't support the Federal Marriage Amendment (FMA), which conservatives believe is necessary to protect marriage as between a man and a woman.

Under the radar, some conservative leaders say that McCain has contempt for pro-lifers, which perhaps explains his inability to successfully woo social conservatives.

Fred Thompson, upon whom many had pinned their hopes, has turned out to be a disappointment, not to mention a cure for insomnia. In Iowa recently, Thompson had to prompt his audience -- their faces masks of ennui -- to applaud. Freight trains have sparked more animation.

Thompson also doesn't support the FMA, which this week prompted one of his key campaign consultants, Bill Wichterman, to walk out. Wichterman, who previously served as conservative outreach director for former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., had been considered an important "get" for Thompson.

And then there's Mike Huckabee. If Dobson really meant what he said in his op-ed -- that winnability shouldn't be the deciding factor in supporting a candidate -- then Huckabee should be receiving bouquets of Ben Franklins with his morning beignets. A southern Baptist preacher, the former Arkansas governor is a human checklist of conservative values, as well as being personable, likable and funny.

What Huckabee doesn't have is the golden coffer, which means that electability (BEG ITAL)is(END ITAL), in fact, a Christian concern.

That leaves just one person -- Romney -- as the obvious pick for the values party. If anything, the golly-gee guy is too perfect. Nary a follicle out of place, he's never enjoyed a caffeine buzz nor awakened to the rare tortures of having been overserved.

His resume otherwise has perfect creases. As governor of Massachusetts, he fought same-sex unions and embryonic cloning. He's pro-life, even if he was previously pro-choice. As a businessman, he made a personal fortune and bailed out the Olympics. He's even got a beautiful, first-ladylike wife, who thus far has not demanded cell-phone reassurances of unfaltering love during her husband's stump speeches.

The only hitch: He's a cultist. Or so some Christians think. Even though Romney shares their belief in Jesus Christ as God, other doctrinal differences tied to his Mormon beliefs apparently cause deep conflicts for evangelicals.

The crafters of push polls are no doubt working overtime, especially in South Carolina, where nobody goes broke baiting fear and phobia. If they could convince racist voters in 2000 that McCain's adopted Indian child was African-American, they won't have much trouble advancing the idea that Romney is a closet polygamist -- despite the fact that he's the only leading Republican candidate who has had just one wife.

Ultimately, Christian leaders (some of whom make off-the-record, supportive calls to Romney, I'm told) most likely will back the Mormon. But their actions meantime have hurt Romney as he tries to close the deal nationally.

If they were smarter, they'd embrace Romney as the one who can beat Hillary because he, more than anyone else, unites all wings of the party -- economic, security and social.

If.


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To: Laverne

I think he would pick about the same. My Father in Law lives in Mass and he calls Rino Romney an unprincipled liberal.


21 posted on 10/05/2007 6:02:56 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: gondramB

cuz it’s trollin’...


22 posted on 10/05/2007 6:04:24 AM PDT by L,TOWM (--Navaho word meaning "He That Spits on Dumb*$$ Liberals".)
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To: BlabItGrabIt

You completely lost me with your mega-church comment. Please enlighten me.


23 posted on 10/05/2007 6:05:46 AM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense? Don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: Kaslin
Evangelical Christians never had it so good, but they seem not to know it. Instead of supporting the candidate who most shares their values -- Mitt Romney

but, doncha know? Romney's a Mormon! Mormons aren't Christian! (It must be that the only reason the real name of the Mormon Church is "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is to fool people. And just because Mormons profess to believe that Jesus is the Savior, the Christ...that doesn't make them Christian. Thus sayeth the evangelicals. Yessir. And that's an end to it because the evangelicals are speaking directly for God.)

24 posted on 10/05/2007 6:10:38 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Kaslin
“Evangelical Christians … seem hell-bent for the proverbial cliff.”

How quickly we forget the results of November, 1992 (third party candidate Perot) and November, 2006 (not turning out to vote because we’re frustrated with Republicans - "that will teach them"). If we do this to ourselves again, we might as well vote for Hillary right now. A vote for Perot in 1992 was a vote for Bill Clinton. Staying home out of disgust in 2006 was a vote for Nancy Pelosi.

“Perfection is a tough standard and hardly anyone is just right.”

That’s correct and who should understand this any better than a Christian? Jesus Christ is the ideal that we all fall short of. It’s crazy to expect that the same outward religiosity we may have for ourselves should be publicly displayed by a politician before we'll support them, especially in the culture we live in. Requiring such could automatically result in Hillary, or Rudy for that matter.

“Christian leaders believe any presidential candidate has to commit to traditional moral values, including the sanctity of human life, the institution of marriage and other pro-family principles.”

Again correct. However, differing views on how to accomplish such goals (FMA versus an incremental approach) should not disqualify a candidate from being the right candidate at this time for Christians.

Minimally, that means anti-Roe v. Wade, no same-sex marriage, no government funding for destruction of human life at any stage and no pro-sex education.

I wouldn’t use the word “minimally” for any of these. These are the core values that will shape the foundation for all of a candidate’s social views.

I enjoy reading Kathleen Parker. I will take her own process but come to a different conclusion. We want to beat Hillary with a candidate who espouses the above principles. Unfortunately, to do that we first have to beat the Trojan Horse candidate in our own party, Mr. Giuliani. There is only one candidate who meets the Christian values test and the 'can he beat Rudy test'. That is one Fred Dalton Thompson.

25 posted on 10/05/2007 6:11:00 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Laverne

Actually, she would be far worse. Mitt is pro-family, he’s not an accomplis to rape and other sexual misdeeds, he makes his money without cheating, he doesn’t believe in high taxes and he’s not in bed with the Move On/America Sucks crowd.

I am also concerned about who the CEO of the US is going to appoint to positions that matter like SCOTUS, SECDEF, The Fed and the Treasury. What’s he going to do about immigration?

I’ll vote for anyone who is going to stand and win against the corrupt Clinton machine. If Romney is the one left standing then he’s it. I won’t pout, sulk or throw a tantrum because my candidate lost.


26 posted on 10/05/2007 6:12:14 AM PDT by misterrob (Four down, 15 more til the Pats win the SB again.)
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To: L,TOWM

>>cuz it’s trollin’...<<

Aha... I’m running late today - first cup of coffee and all that - troll meter not up to speed. :)


27 posted on 10/05/2007 6:13:23 AM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: sirchtruth

“whatever else ills society”

Like incivility? (cf. your post)


28 posted on 10/05/2007 6:13:47 AM PDT by dinoparty
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To: Hydroshock
Romney is a quintensential politician.

Basically I think he is lying.

'tis what they do.

S'far's I can see, Fred is the only one running who maintains his decades old stance on the issues - and believes in the structure and principles that the Founders established and that made this country great. The Foundation Stone of our country is FREEDOM, individual RIGHTS - including the right to bear arms, the right to speak freely, the Right to Life, States Rights (that posits that we people within our state have brains and are able to decide most things for ourselves = that going to Washington does not suddenly bestow omnipotent wisdom on one, thus rendering them the ones who shall govern our every breath.)

We are NOT a democracy, folks.

Everyone repeat after me: " We are a REPUBLIC!"

"And to the REPUBLIC for which it stands...."


29 posted on 10/05/2007 6:20:56 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Laverne

I could just as well be that the Republican Party (in general) is the foot shooter, by not running truly traditional conservative candidates, or by not giving more party recognition and moral support to those in the race who are more traditionally conservative.


30 posted on 10/05/2007 6:26:56 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: maine-iac7

I do not like all of Fred. I am supporting Ducan Hunter as of now. But I could support Fred, whick is more then I can say about Rudy McRomney.


31 posted on 10/05/2007 6:27:43 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: Laverne
Guaranteeing another Clinton presidency...

WRONG, it's the milk toast republicans fault, none of the candidates are worth a hoot, there is not a real man amoung us will to stand up and say what needs said.
32 posted on 10/05/2007 6:29:17 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: John Leland 1789

I have been gettign the feeling that some in the party would like to force the socons to sit in the back of the bus and shut up.. But that is not our way.


33 posted on 10/05/2007 6:29:31 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: Nextrush
Is that why he’s been “lackluster” in his campaigning?

Let's not swallow the "lackluster" label.

Do we really prefer candidates that yell and gesture and pontificate and point as if that will make what they have to say more believable and that that's the only way they can make we the sheeple understand? Have we been hypnotized to that extent?

I prefer someone who simply talks to us like we were adults and can understand what they say without yelling and pointing at us.

It's the dictator personality that screams and points - think Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Clinton...

An honest person does not have to resort to such histrionics

34 posted on 10/05/2007 6:30:53 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: tabsternager
Romney’s an intelligent conservative who’s got the presence to pull in swing voters. That should be enough reason to vote for him.

Romney jumped the shark in Mass with the Socialist Health Plan he signed - and Hillary, Kerry and Kennedy jumped up and down about as being great - which should tell us something.

Want Hilliary's Socialist Health system? Vote Romney.

35 posted on 10/05/2007 6:35:33 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Hydroshock
Yes, Duncan Hunter looks better and better. I always did like him.

This one of the men to whom RNC people at high levels should have been lending more moral support. I believe that elitists in the party are as much to blame as the liberal media for Mr. Hunter not getting more exposure on a national scale.

The RNC elitists are just playing social tag with the Democrats anymore.

36 posted on 10/05/2007 6:54:21 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: Kaslin

I’d still take Romney over Rudy.


37 posted on 10/05/2007 6:57:38 AM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: sirchtruth
Why should any conservative support a politician who favors murder, homosexuality, and whatever else ills society?

Why?

Because the alternative can be much, much worse.

Perfection is unattainable in this world. The best one can do it work to move closer to it, not further from it.

38 posted on 10/05/2007 7:02:14 AM PDT by AIM-54
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To: sirchtruth

CCs have something politicians want - votes. It’s up to the politicians to woo these votes. It’s called politics. If the politicians are incapable of doing retail politics how is that the voters fault?


39 posted on 10/05/2007 7:13:24 AM PDT by DManA
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To: John Leland 1789
You are right about the RNC elitists. Again, we are our own worst enemies.

I really like Duncan Hunter, probably even more than Fred Thompson overall. The realist in me though says supporting Duncan gives the nomination to Rudy.

40 posted on 10/05/2007 7:22:24 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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