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To: Leisler

Regardless of the gay angle, the court was making law, which is what leftist liberal judges have been doing since FDR. Everyone knew it. Romney could of fought it.”

Wrong. He *did* fight it, the right way. He called for a constitutional amendment. Romney had advice from Ed Meese and others on this matter and he did what he could do to deny out-of-state residents gay marriage licenses, and he fought to get the state lege to sign up for constitutional changes. See quote below. Why are you mis-stating the record?
The Romney critics are on crack think the Judge Roy Moore fall-on-your-sword play would work. It never has. Disagree?
Please tell me where your law degree came from to justify your expert opinion on this.

http://www.nationalreview.com/miller/miller200512141539.asp
QUOTE:

Despite this fiscal achievement, a pair of social issues has done far more to define Romney’s governorship: gay marriage and embryonic-stem-cell research. On either matter, a good case can be made that Romney has fought harder for social conservatives than any other governor in America, and it is difficult to imagine his doing so in a more daunting political environment. “On marriage and cloning, he has provided aggressive leadership as a positive, pro-family governor,” says Kris Mineau of the Massachusetts Family Institute. “On a scale of one to ten, I’d rank him an eight, and I’m a tough grader.”

Gay marriage featured prominently in Romney’s 2002 election because everybody knew the Massachusetts supreme court was poised to rule on the matter. From the start, Romney made it clear that he believes marriage should exist only between a man and a woman. When the court’s decision came down, however, it said that the state constitution mandates gay marriages. So Romney began plotting a counterstrategy, seeking advice from former attorney general Edwin Meese as well as constitutional scholar Matthew Spalding of the Heritage Foundation. They zeroed in on an obscure law from 1913 that has the effect of voiding gay marriages conferred upon non-Massachusetts residents, and so Romney has used his administrative powers to prevent Boston from becoming a same-sex version of Las Vegas. Although this policy is now under legal assault, Romney has so far saved 49 other states from the judicial controversy afflicting his own.

In addition, he has tried to amend the state constitution, which is the only way to undo the court’s ruling as opposed to merely limiting it. Under Massachusetts law, this is a complicated, multi-step process in which the governor plays no formal role. Romney, however, has used his bully pulpit to call for a total ban on gay marriage. The legislature complied, but only on an amendment that also permitted civil unions. Romney wasn’t happy about this. He also had no alternative. “If I have to choose between gay marriages and civil unions,” he says, “I’ll choose civil unions every time.” For this amendment to be fully adopted, the legislature must approve it one more time (which it may in fact refuse to do). If it clears this hurdle, it then will go before voters as a referendum. (In the meantime, Romney is also pushing for a federal constitutional amendment to protect marriage.) Whatever the outcome, there’s no denying that Romney has pulled every lever within his reach to defend traditional marriage. “In the worst possible circumstances, he confronted one of the toughest issues of our politics with considerable moral seriousness and political skill,” says Spalding. “That’s the mark of a conservative statesman.”


20 posted on 10/06/2007 1:57:41 PM PDT by WOSG (I just wish freepers would bash Democrats as much as they bash Republicans)
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To: WOSG
Wrong. He *did* fight it, the right way.

You are absolutely correct, and for those who actually care to know the truth, you can read about it HERE.

They all seem to want to live in the past, but it's truly time we enter into the here and now, because a future with President Hillary is not one any of us want to fathom.

--->We can't ignore the fact that Romney's positions align with Ronald Reagan's more than any other top-tier candidate's. Of the top four, Mitt is the only one to support Reagan's Human Life Amendment and he supports the pro-family cause of defining marriage to be between one man and one woman. Michael Reagan on Romney

---> Also, Romney is the only one who can keep up with Rudy. Do you want to beat Rudy(and then Hillary) or not? Let's be smart.

This year, former New York Mayor Giuliani, who is leading in public opinion polls, has raised more than $43 million from others; Romney has raised $44.6 million from others.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-money5oct05,1,5187821.story?coll=la-politics-campaign

25 posted on 10/06/2007 2:10:08 PM PDT by redgirlinabluestate
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To: WOSG
Let me put it this way. What has he done since then? Where is ‘The Romney Institute’ that has, and is, organizing the beloved, some day over the rainbow, Constitutional Amendment in Massachusetts?

You know where it is?

Freek’n nowhere. Cause he never did it. He didn’t fight it. And he’s walked away from it.

BS

Don’t sell me Mitt did, is going to, it’s the most important BS to me.

Mitt couldn’t let it hit him on the arse fast enough, he was so out of Mass.

He dumped the gay thing. He dumped the Republican Party.

Massachusetts was his play thing. Disposable. He had no loyalties and wasn’t going to skin a fingernail for Mass at the expense of his true goal, running for president.

Sorry, even if Mitts shoes are cleaner than others, he still wiped his feet on us.

The man is a calculator and will say what needs to be said to make the sale.

28 posted on 10/06/2007 2:23:01 PM PDT by Leisler (Sugar, the gateway to diabetes, misery and death. Stop Sugar Deaths NOW!)
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To: WOSG
I think you're wrong on this one.

The court ordered the Legislature to make a law consistent with its ruling. This the Legislature did not do.

The court did not order Romney to do anything. In the absence of the court-ordered enactment of a law permitting pretended marriages among homosexuals, they couldn't order Romney to do anything, since the only order they could arguably issue against Romney would have been an order to enforce the (nonexistent) law.

Why Mitt chose to be proactive and to create a nonexistent, illegal "right" for the Commonwealth to pretend, along with the pretended spouses, that they were "married" is a question he should have to answer.

46 posted on 10/06/2007 3:56:05 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Trails of troubles, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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