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Pair accused of peddling parts from F-4,F-14 fighters over the Web
The Salt Lake Tribune,Utah ^ | 10/05/2007 | Nate Carlisle

Posted on 10/06/2007 4:40:25 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Pair accused of peddling pieces from F-4, F-14 aircraft over the Internet

By Nate Carlisle

The Salt Lake Tribune

10/05/2007 12:09:12 PM MDT

Federal prosecutors on Friday announced charges against two Ogden men accused of illegally selling parts for fighter jets over the Internet.

Abraham Trujillo, 61, and David Waye, 22, both are charged with three counts of illegal arms exporting in federal court in Salt Lake City.

The U.S. attorney's office says federal immigration agents discovered a Web site with listings of F-14 parts offered by Trujillo and his Ogden business, NSN Specialists. Over the next several months in 2006 and 2007, the office said, agents purchased cable assemblies and other F-14 and F-4 jet items from Trujillo.

All the items required a license to export, the office said, and Trujillo did not have one.

Prosecutors did not specify what Waye's role was. "Trujillo and his associates allegedly made attempts to send the items out of the country, making efforts to disguise the true nature of the goods," the U.S. Attorney's Office said in a prepared statement.

The charges say the pair exported the parts to Canada, but the information does not specify how they obtained the parts or who purchased items.

Representatives from the U.S. Attorney's Office and the U.S. Air Force did not immediately return calls seeking comment, and neither did Trujillo and Waye.

Trujillo and Waye will receive a summons to appear before a federal magistrate. Penalties can carry a maximum of 10 years in prison and a $1 million fine per count.

ncarlisle@sltrib.com


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; blackmarket; f14; fighter
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The only nation which still uses both these aircraft is Iran!!
1 posted on 10/06/2007 4:40:28 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
The U.S. attorney's office says federal immigration agents discovered a Web site with listings of F-14 parts offered by Trujillo

Immigration agents? Maybe ICE agents?

2 posted on 10/06/2007 4:54:47 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
I recall once, in the late ‘80’s, a USAF sergeant tried to sell a complete F-16 engine off-base.
3 posted on 10/06/2007 5:23:18 AM PDT by jimtorr
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4 posted on 10/06/2007 5:31:11 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
The only nation which still uses both these aircraft is Iran!!

The F-14s sole operator is Iran. Several countries; Spain, Greece, Turkey, Japan, South Korea, Germany, Egypt, Iran and the United States, are still flying the Phantom II.

5 posted on 10/06/2007 5:40:57 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: TLI
Immigration agents? Maybe ICE agents?

You're giving those agencies too much credit. They can't find an illegal in a Mexican protest parade.

6 posted on 10/06/2007 5:48:37 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
The only nation which still uses both these aircraft is Iran!!

True, but the F-4 is still in operation with other air forces I believe. Don't the Turks still have them?

7 posted on 10/06/2007 6:30:52 AM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Are you sure the F-4 is still active in Japan? Curious that you list the U.S., I guess the drone program is an operation of sorts.


8 posted on 10/06/2007 6:32:52 AM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: mtbopfuyn
They can't find an illegal in a Mexican protest parade.

Darn. I guess I missed the part where Michael Chertoff, David Aguilar and Julie Myers were leading the operation. Sorry!





:-)


9 posted on 10/06/2007 7:34:04 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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Well,I was referring to Iran as it is the only nation which uses both these types & only one which cannot buy them legitimately from the US government.It would have the greatest need to buy spares from under the table.

Japan still uses F-4s(I believe that the last F-4 to be built was built by Mitsubishi in the early 80s).Their requirement for 90 aircraft for which the Eurofighter & F-15E are competing is for a replacement for the F-4.


10 posted on 10/06/2007 8:50:56 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: SampleMan
Yes, I'm sure. The JASDF still flies F-4EJs

http://fc.airliners.net/photos/middle/7/4/5/1276547.jpg
Photo date: 18 September 2007

and RF-4EJs.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1265432/M/
Photo date: 26 August 2007

The 82d ATRS flies both manned and unmanned Phantoms mostly from Tyndall and Holloman.

Photo date: 5 October 2007

11 posted on 10/06/2007 9:16:33 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The Iranians can get F-4 spares from several sources, including Israel.


12 posted on 10/06/2007 9:18:08 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Next time, don’t use EBay.
13 posted on 10/06/2007 9:19:09 AM PDT by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

I thought such transfers stopped after the 8 year war.


14 posted on 10/06/2007 9:55:42 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I want a Sparrow missile. The serial numbers are over 14,000 now. Just as a home defense weapon. No, wait. I could burn down a ‘hood just by launching it.


15 posted on 10/06/2007 10:41:05 AM PDT by BobS (I><P>)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Nope there are plenty of schmucks in Israel, like Pollard, who hate America and still make deals with the devil. Over the years a lot of F-14 parts made their way to Tehran via Israel.


16 posted on 10/06/2007 12:12:33 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: billorites
The only nation which still uses both these aircraft is Iran!!

Mmm, that's an F-16.

17 posted on 10/06/2007 1:02:42 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: SampleMan
True, but the F-4 is still in operation with other air forces I believe. Don't the Turks still have them?

Egypt, Germany, Greece, Iran, Israel, Japan, South Korea, Spain, Turkey. According to CombatAircraft.com

Might be a little out of date, but the list is at least close. According to MilAvia The Luftwaffe is the largest user.

18 posted on 10/06/2007 1:10:20 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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Over the years a lot of F-14 parts made their way to Tehran via Israel.

Where would Israel get F-14 unique parts? They never operated the Tomcat. Only the US Navy and Iran ever operated it.

19 posted on 10/06/2007 1:23:37 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

Israel retired the last of their Phantoms in May of 2004.


20 posted on 10/06/2007 2:22:49 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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