[Vigilanteman]

McGovern was never even in the same class as Carter in hating his country.

He may be a senile old hippie leftover from the 1960's, but he has never been the dictator loving enabler that so personifies Jimmy Carter.

I had hopes McGovern would learn something when I read an interview a few years back complaining about all the government regulation and costs to the Bed and Breakfast place he and his wife tried to run. He lamented "I never dreamed it would be such hard work!"

But I guess he sold the B&B shortly after the interview and has already forgetten the lessons he was taught.

[shrinkermd]

It is important not to forget: "He volunteered for the United States Army Air Forces during World War II and served as a B-24 Liberator bomber pilot in the Fifteenth Air Force, flying 35 missions over enemy territory from bases in North Africa and later Italy, often against heavy anti-aircraft artillery. McGovern was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross for saving his crew by crash landing his damaged bomber on a small Mediterranean island. McGovern's wartime service is at the center of Stephen E Ambrose's book The Wild Blue [2], which the author dedicated to McGovern's wife Eleanor"

His antiwar sentiments probably resulted from his religious convictions. He was a theological student and his faith plus his wartime experiences led him to become vociferously antiwar.

Understandable, but he was mistaken about Viet Nam. Most people who have met him, like him regardless of differing political views.

[elcid1970]

Yeah, you’re right. McGovern was contemptuous of the electorate after 1972, but he lacks the dark bilious America-hatred of Jimmah.

But I will never forgive McGovern for saying in 1972 that he would go on his knees to Hanoi to beg the release of the POWs.

I was flying helicopters in Vietnam in 1972 and I swear the S%#T from the ground got worse after his idiotic statement. Then he shows up in Saigon and calls for the overthrowal of the current RVN government. McGovern was no help to us in country at all.

Even if all he is now is just another doddering harmless old leftie fart.