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To: wbill

I would almost agree that civil unions would be the answer ... or having government get out of the marriage business entirely.

Except for one thing: forcing priests/ministers and organized religion to marry them is the next logical step on the campaign.


56 posted on 10/08/2007 9:44:31 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

Why should there be civil unions? They’re just marriages without the name. Why should society in any way ratify same-sex pairings?


57 posted on 10/08/2007 9:51:55 AM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: Lorianne
I would almost agree that civil unions would be the answer ...if a person is of the belief that marriage is nothing more than a legal contract, then a civil union is an easy way to confer that status. Certainly easier than going through all of the legal rigamarole to get to the same point that a civil union would confer. Personally, I disagree, but I can see logically how this argument could be made..."we get the rights eventually, anyway, so...."

or having government get out of the marriage business entirely. ...easier said than done, but yup, you're right,

Except for one thing: forcing priests/ministers and organized religion to marry them is the next logical step on the campaign. ....you're right on that one, as well. I'm curious (not in a good way, but more in a 'watching a train wreck' sort of way) to see how that one shakes out. Libs have pretty firmly established that religion has no place in affairs of state, wonder how they'll rationalize that the state should interfere with religion? Or, will that pesky Constitution get in way?

....These are the things I wonder about when I can't sleep at night....

66 posted on 10/08/2007 10:50:35 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Lorianne

They won’t be satisfied with civil unions. They view them as insulting, not the whole enchilata, so civil unions will be used to secure gay marriage. Once they get gay marriage, that will be used to secure other legal/political/social goals...
Happiness lies within, and these folks don’t understand that. Everybody else has to change for them; don’t ask them to change. If you ask that of them, then you’re a racist and a bigot, etc., etc.


70 posted on 10/08/2007 11:19:10 AM PDT by beejaa (HY)
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To: Lorianne

This issue is NOT about getting into the marriage business (or out).

This is about FORCING an edorsement of a sexual act. If it was just “a contract issue” then the homosexuals could have gone to their local Officedepot, Staples, or OfficeMax and bought the legally binding cohabitation agreement for $24.95. (free if you look online) This would allow two homosexuals to cohabitate without there needed ANY legal identification as to what they do in the bedroom.

Keep in mind the ONLY thing homosexuals are about is the sexual act. That is it.

Society rewards the institution not the individual. Marriage is a benefit to society’s future and it is rewarded with promotion and protections. Homosexuals do nothing to further society. They only self reward their hedonistic needs for sexual orgasm and attention.

Make no mistake, the topic at Bar Conventions bothh local and national IS about breakingn down marriage from the “breeders”.


71 posted on 10/08/2007 12:07:37 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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