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Qaeda Goes Dark After a U.S. Slip (ABC leak damage)
The Sun ^ | Oct. 9, 2007 | Eli Lake

Posted on 10/09/2007 2:21:58 AM PDT by jsh3180

WASHINGTON — Al Qaeda's Internet communications system has suddenly gone dark to American intelligence after the leak of Osama bin Laden's September 11 speech inadvertently disclosed the fact that we had penetrated the enemy's system.

The intelligence blunder started with what appeared at the time as an American intelligence victory, namely that the federal government had intercepted, a full four days before it was to be aired, a video of Osama bin Laden's first appearance in three years in a video address marking the sixth anniversary of the attacks of September 11, 2001. On the morning of September 7, the Web site of ABC News posted excerpts from the speech.

But the disclosure from ABC and later other news organizations tipped off Qaeda's internal security division that the organization's Internet communications system, known among American intelligence analysts as Obelisk, was compromised. While intranets are usually based on servers in a discrete physical location, Obelisk is a series of sites all over the Web, often with fake names, in some cases sites that are not even known by their proprietors to have been hacked by Al Qaeda.

One intelligence officer who requested anonymity said in an interview last week that the intelligence community watched in real time the shutdown of the Obelisk system. America's Obelisk watchers even saw the order to shut down the system delivered from Qaeda's internal security to a team of technical workers in Malaysia. That was the last internal message America's intelligence community saw. "We saw the whole thing shut down because of this leak," the official said. "We lost an important keyhole into the enemy."

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: 20070911; 911; abc; abcnews; alqaeda; gwot; internet; leakers; looselips; malaysia; mediatraitors; obelisk; obl; sedition; siteintelligencegrp; surveillance; treason; videotape; wot
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Our media traitors tip off the enemy again.
1 posted on 10/09/2007 2:22:03 AM PDT by jsh3180
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To: jsh3180

Funny, you read the headline and first paragraph you think it was an intelligence snafu; you get to the second paragraph, though, and it appears it was the media rushing the material out that ruined the operation.


2 posted on 10/09/2007 2:31:45 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life atheist Bostonian. If I don't it respond it might be because you sent me something stupid)
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To: jsh3180

Do the lives of innocent Americans mean so little to ABC or any other like news organization? Obviously, it does.


3 posted on 10/09/2007 2:34:33 AM PDT by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: jsh3180

And what will the Justice Department do about it? (Nothing)


4 posted on 10/09/2007 2:36:19 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: freekitty
Do the lives of innocent Americans mean so little to ABC or any other like news organization?

That's because they aren't Americans and they don't take sides in this war. How Un-American and unpatriotic of you to think that they might let their bias show.

5 posted on 10/09/2007 2:41:44 AM PDT by patj
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To: jsh3180

The leak seems to be an intelligence community problem, not a media one.
Looks to me like Rita Katz’ folks are continuing to do outstanding work. Maybe someone smart will someday make her DCI.


6 posted on 10/09/2007 2:42:36 AM PDT by MadJack ("Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet." (Afghan proverb))
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BTTT


7 posted on 10/09/2007 2:43:22 AM PDT by Woodman ("One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives." PW)
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To: jsh3180

Damnit somebody needs to hang over this!


8 posted on 10/09/2007 2:43:22 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: jsh3180

Thank You ABC News; traitors.


9 posted on 10/09/2007 2:43:23 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Liberals want equality of outcome not equality of opportunity.)
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To: jsh3180

10 posted on 10/09/2007 2:44:40 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: jsh3180
But.. but.. the public has a right to know?

We need to get to the bottom of this disgusting anti-American media aiding and abetting the enemy. What is it going to take another 9-11? It will happen but it won’t stop the traitors.

11 posted on 10/09/2007 3:00:34 AM PDT by lula ( Islam IS the Anti-Christ)
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To: jsh3180

It doesn’t surprise me that the media is full of traitors. On the other hand, the story doesn’t make much sense because even if we have broken their security (as I’m sure we have), we certainly would not turn the excerpts over to ABC. And if we did, then maybe we’ve got traitors in the CIA, as well.


12 posted on 10/09/2007 3:02:02 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: MadJack; jsh3180
The leak seems to be an intelligence community problem, not a media one.

Ditto. The news media wouldn't know about it if the intelligence community could keep a secret.

13 posted on 10/09/2007 3:02:51 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: MadJack
The leak seems to be an intelligence community problem, not a media one.

I'd say it's both.

14 posted on 10/09/2007 3:05:04 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: jsh3180

2 problems: the government person(s) who leaked, and the news organizations who publicized the leak.

There are far too many people in government who are just too stupid for words, and most of the remainder are traitors.
Add to that news agencies that are more concerned with a news coup than the welfare of the country and you have a recipe for defeat.


15 posted on 10/09/2007 3:08:16 AM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: jsh3180

“Enemies, domestic and foreign”


16 posted on 10/09/2007 3:12:26 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims.)
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To: jsh3180
While I want to be upset at the media... I want to hang whoever leaked the information from the intelligence community! And again, here in black & white, we read...

One intelligence officer who requested anonymity said in an interview last week

I want this SOB hung. He works for the government, he works for the people of the United States of America, not the media. If he can't keep his mouth shut he needs to be hung out to dry, tried, imprisoned and suffer the ultimate penalty of traitors.

17 posted on 10/09/2007 3:14:37 AM PDT by EBH (Loose lips sink ships.)
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To: shalom aleichem

The Senate Judiciary committee will however do something. They passed out of committee a shield for these traitorous reporters to never have to reveal their sources. Our United States Senate has endorsed espionage on the front page of major media newspapers and headlines from the mainstream media.

These people are pathetic.


18 posted on 10/09/2007 3:15:33 AM PDT by Laverne
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To: MadJack
The leak seems to be an intelligence community problem, not a media one.

Perhaps.

But I also see this as a severe partisan problem, in which the many GWB haters inside the CIA/Intelligence community are eager to leak things ... just to damage this Administration.

Maybe I'm getting paranoid, but that's what I truly believe.

19 posted on 10/09/2007 3:18:36 AM PDT by Edit35
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To: jsh3180

I’m not totally sure this is a bad thing. They relied on that system and now have had to shut it down. This must be significantly reducing their ability to communicate with each other. I expect we’ll locate the replacement system fairly quickly — if we haven’t already; this story may be part of a disinformation campaign to convince al Qaeda that we’ve completely lost access to their communication network, when in fact we haven’t.


20 posted on 10/09/2007 3:21:19 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: EBH

Don’t be too quick to hang him. He may well have been delivering an officially planned “leak” of that comment. All is not as it seems in the world of intelligence.


21 posted on 10/09/2007 3:24:09 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: jsh3180

Qaeda Goes Dark After a U.S. Slip (ABC leak damage)...

abc demonstrating once again which side they are fully supporting....

yet like lib/dems all ~ they squeal they supoort the troops...wonder if they wear their american flag pins proudly on their lapels???


22 posted on 10/09/2007 3:26:17 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: shalom aleichem
And what will the Justice Department do about it? (Nothing)

Aw, c'mon... It's not like anybody takes any of this National Security stuff seriously...

23 posted on 10/09/2007 3:26:46 AM PDT by gridlock (C'mon people now / Smile on your Brother / Everybody get together / Try to love one anoth-kaBOOM!)
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To: Brilliant
Many years ago a very senior Brit spook remarked abiut the CIA that "the United States has let loose upon an unsuspecting world a horde of demented boy scouts.

The Company acquired the nickname "The Boy Scouts" in certain circles.

But is the problem really with the CIA? I had thought that elint was the responsibility of the NSA.

24 posted on 10/09/2007 3:29:56 AM PDT by Clive
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To: Darkwolf377
The intelligence blunder started

You are correct.

This was no "intelligence blunder."

It was MSM Treason.

25 posted on 10/09/2007 3:36:47 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: jsh3180
Our media traitors tip off the enemy again.

Someone had to tell the media. Who was it?

26 posted on 10/09/2007 3:38:38 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: jsh3180

Wouldn’t it be ironic if a member of news media were to die because they couldn’t keep their mouth shut??


27 posted on 10/09/2007 3:46:52 AM PDT by Perdogg (Join the NCAA basketball thread - Freemail me)
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To: Darkwolf377
If you read the second page of the linked article, strong suspicion placed on the government doing the leaking.

An investigation into who downloaded the video from our server indicated that several computers with IP addresses were registered to government agencies.

Yesterday a spokesman for the National Counterterrorism Center, Carl Kropf, denied the accusation that it was responsible for the leak. "That's just absolutely wrong. The allegation and the accusation that we did that is unfounded," he said. The spokesman for the director of national intelligence, Ross Feinstein, yesterday also denied the leak allegation. "The intelligence community and the ODNI senior leadership did not leak this video to the media," he said.

Ms. Katz said, "The government leak damaged our investigation into Al Qaeda's network. Techniques and sources that took years to develop became ineffective. As a result of the leak Al Qaeda changed their methods." Ms. Katz said she also lost potential revenue.

28 posted on 10/09/2007 3:56:32 AM PDT by listenhillary (millions crippled by the war on poverty....but we won't pull out)
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To: jsh3180
ABC - Anti-American Broadcast Company...And, they keep proving that!
29 posted on 10/09/2007 4:00:37 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Officially Fredbacker1 but don't know how to change my name)
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To: jsh3180

Is this where the MSM told the bad guys we had their cell phone frequencies?


30 posted on 10/09/2007 4:05:51 AM PDT by 50sDad (Angels on asteroids are abducting crop circles!)
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To: freekitty

What the hell was our intelligence organization doing giving the Press the info to begin with? How many times do they need to be hit over the head before they will get the fact that the MSM will F em every time?


31 posted on 10/09/2007 4:11:21 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: jsh3180

TRAITOROUS MEDIA SCUM!!!


32 posted on 10/09/2007 4:11:21 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: gridlock

Guess who’s back working for Hillary again...


33 posted on 10/09/2007 4:14:24 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Visualize the Clintons in jail.)
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To: Darkwolf377

But you were right the first time. How did that information get to the MSM?


34 posted on 10/09/2007 4:16:39 AM PDT by rabidralph
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To: jsh3180

OK the dems like a witch-hunt.
Find the jerk responsible for the leak and charge the leaker with treason.


35 posted on 10/09/2007 4:19:36 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Before the government can give you a dollar it must first take it from another American)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

True. It may have been to see where things came from in the “shut down”.


36 posted on 10/09/2007 4:20:29 AM PDT by DB
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To: jsh3180

It’s time to bring back the “Committee on Un-American Activities”.


37 posted on 10/09/2007 4:20:40 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Before the government can give you a dollar it must first take it from another American)
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To: Cap Huff

Remember our discussions after Damadola....wasn’t it my position that we were intercepting AQ internet video posting.....I’ll be darned ....but....I was correct....:-)


38 posted on 10/09/2007 4:24:37 AM PDT by Dog
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To: Darkwolf377

How did ABC learn of the system?


39 posted on 10/09/2007 4:25:04 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: Billthedrill; jeffers; Southack; nuconvert; txflake; AdmSmith

Fyi


40 posted on 10/09/2007 4:25:57 AM PDT by Dog
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To: xzins

A leaker


41 posted on 10/09/2007 4:26:19 AM PDT by Dog
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To: jsh3180

The article is confusing, but in this case I find it hard to blame the media. There is no reason that anyone should hand over sensitive information to the media that would compromise our intelligence gathering.

If this was given or leaked to the Drive-by Media, it is the fault of the one that gave them the info knowing they are partisan, anti-American appeasing traitors.


42 posted on 10/09/2007 4:28:35 AM PDT by RobFromGa (It's the Spending, Stupid! (not the method of collection))
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To: jsh3180

The official that disclosed this to the media should be executed.......ABC, NBC, CBS should be ignored.


43 posted on 10/09/2007 4:32:31 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: jsh3180

Had ABC and the other anti-American msm outlets been around during WWII, Hitler would have won.
ABC should be banned from the White House Press Corps for compromising our security in this disgraceful way.


44 posted on 10/09/2007 4:35:19 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: jsh3180

This article is pretty much 100% incorrect in it’s timeline and assessment of the situation.


45 posted on 10/09/2007 4:36:47 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: JerseyHighlander

What do you base that statement on?


46 posted on 10/09/2007 4:38:06 AM PDT by listenhillary (millions crippled by the war on poverty....but we won't pull out)
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To: Perdogg

It is ironic!

Eventually, these America-hating leakers and the media are going to get a lot of people killed. More likely than not, it’ll be in some big-city bastion of liberalism where people just like them live.


47 posted on 10/09/2007 4:38:26 AM PDT by Nickname
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To: Dog; RedRover; P-Marlowe

It sounds as if an independent, for-pay business provided the US Government with intelligence. That is fascinating in itself. As soon as it got to the Fed it was compromised.

As we’ve long suspected, that strongly suggests there is a network or aggregation of individuals in our intelligence community who work against our government.

This also highlights why the “journalist protection” act is a mistake. Anyone wishing to disclose intel info could do so with impunity simply by passing it to a journalist who would then reveal it.


48 posted on 10/09/2007 4:42:40 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: Nickname

” Eventually, these America-hating leakers and the media are going to get a lot of people killed. More likely than not, it’ll be in some big-city bastion of liberalism where people just like them live. “

The first indication we’re going to get of the inevitable mushroom cloud over New York —

Will be all of the “Morning Shows” going black simultaneously....


49 posted on 10/09/2007 4:44:00 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (We has met the enemy, and he is us........)
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To: listenhillary

http://news.aol.com/story/ar/_a/mom-finds-osama-video-before-release/20070920210609990001

Mom Finds Osama Video Before Release
By SAGAR MEGHANI,
AP
Posted: 2007-09-20 22:50:06
WASHINGTON (Sept. 20) - Once her son is off to school, Laura Mansfield settles in at her dining room table with her laptop and begins trolling Arabic-language message boards and chat rooms popular with jihadists.

This woman was giving interviews, she was also the first person to report the video to US intelligence authorities. She then went and did itnerviews that blew her cover and implicitly mentioned her M.O. to gain access. now Rita Kaitz’s company and other for profit groups also did interviews giving away info.

Google “Laura Mansfield” “Bin Laden” to find more info.


50 posted on 10/09/2007 4:45:28 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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