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Cohabitation is bad for men, worse for women, and horrible for children
LifeSiteNews ^ | 10/9/07 | A. Patrick Schneider II

Posted on 10/09/2007 3:56:14 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: wagglebee
The pothead libertarians generally like to keep the discussions focused on pot because they are uncomfortable discussing their porn and prostitution habits.

OK, so anyone who lives with a chick before marrying her goes to hookers as well. The logic on this site amazes me at times.

81 posted on 10/10/2007 11:34:42 AM PDT by jmc813 (.) (.)
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To: Aquinasfan
Yes, because cohabitation is a public scandal.

You live in a state which lets dudes marry each other. Are you really going to tell me with a straight face that most people there find opposite-sex couples living together "scandalous"?

82 posted on 10/10/2007 11:37:10 AM PDT by jmc813 (.) (.)
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To: bigred41

I do think it is different if the couple is already engaged or virtually so, vs. just shacking up with no future plans or anything.


83 posted on 10/10/2007 11:38:34 AM PDT by RockinRight (Can we start calling Fred "44" now, please?)
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To: Xenalyte

You might like this. This is about the most ridiculous thread I’ve read in a while.


84 posted on 10/10/2007 11:39:25 AM PDT by jmc813 (.) (.)
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To: Dave Elias
I lived with my wife for five years before we were married. Are you trying to tell me our relationship is doomed?

Your history with your wife means that you are more likely to have one or more of those negative occurrences in your relationship. There will be some who experience all of them; there will be some who experience none of them.

I hope you're in the second group, FRiend. :-)

It's all about probabilities, not absolutes.

85 posted on 10/10/2007 11:40:24 AM PDT by TChris (Cartels (oil, diamonds, labor) are bad. Free-market competition is good.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

And that, my FRiend, is the exact “holier-than-thou” attitude that has exploded the last few years that is creating problems in the conservative movement.


86 posted on 10/10/2007 11:46:37 AM PDT by RockinRight (Can we start calling Fred "44" now, please?)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

OK well that’s an interesting analysis.

My opinion is that yes, it’s generally a bad idea. However, if you’re engaged already there are situations where it is warranted and will turn out OK.

The problems with co-habitation stem more from the reason that one wants to co-habitate in the first place, not the cohabitation itself.

Case-in-point: If a guy shacks up with an easy girl to save cash and get free sex, and she agrees for the same reasons, and at least one of them isn’t of the mind to want to marry, the problems they will have aren’t because they suddenly began living together, but because of the attitudes they already had.

OTOH, a couple that is getting married in 6 months already, moving in together beforehand, is probably going to be just fine, assuming this isn’t something they’ve done seven times before.


87 posted on 10/10/2007 11:50:30 AM PDT by RockinRight (Can we start calling Fred "44" now, please?)
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To: Artist; Aquinasfan
Yeah, maybe He was including His unnatural father, Joseph.

PWN3D!

88 posted on 10/10/2007 11:51:29 AM PDT by jmc813 (.) (.)
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To: wagglebee
4. Women suffer disproportionately: Cohabiting women often end up with the responsibilities of marriage -- particularly when it comes to caring for children -- without the legal protection (ibid.), while contributing more than 70 percent of the relationship's income (Crouse, J.C., "Cohabitation: Consequences for Mothers and Children," presentation at Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, Oct. 11-14, 2004, U.N. Tenth Anniversary of the International Year of the Family).

Ah yes, the "loser boyfriend of the week" syndrome.

89 posted on 10/10/2007 11:52:28 AM PDT by RockinRight (Can we start calling Fred "44" now, please?)
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To: Aquinasfan
You've missed the important question: Is it a true statement? And the answer is yes, because, at the very least, cohabitation represents a public scandal.

If the public decided not to be scandalized, is it still wrong?

90 posted on 10/10/2007 12:08:38 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: wagglebee

So, all the libertarians are seeing prostitutes? C’mon, you know you were going to get called down on this particular falsehood you invented to further your agenda.


91 posted on 10/10/2007 12:16:19 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: wagglebee

My wife and I ‘co habitated’ for four years before we got married. No kids then, or since.

We will be celebrating our 25th anniversary very soon.


92 posted on 10/10/2007 12:18:52 PM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
Good analysis.
93 posted on 10/10/2007 12:29:45 PM PDT by az_illini (Freedom is the freedom to say two + two make four. If that is granted, all else follows-G. Orwell)
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To: jmc813
OK, so anyone who lives with a chick before marrying her goes to hookers as well. The logic on this site amazes me at times.

No, go back and read what I wrote before you jump to conclusions. I said POTHEAD libertarians and I MODIFIED the statement with the word "generally." That statement never mentioned people who choose to cohabitate before marriage.

94 posted on 10/10/2007 12:45:46 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Melas
So, all the libertarians are seeing prostitutes? C’mon, you know you were going to get called down on this particular falsehood you invented to further your agenda.

Read what I wrote before you jump to conclusions. I said POTHEAD libertarians and I MODIFIED the statement with the word "generally."

95 posted on 10/10/2007 12:46:49 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Dianna; Aquinasfan
If the public decided not to be scandalized, is it still wrong?

Morality IS NOT and NEVER HAS BEEN predicated on public opinion.

Slavery had widespread support throughout the world for thousands of years. This never made it right.

The fact that over 3500 infants are slaughtered every day in the United States doesn't scandalize a significant portion of the population. This doesn't make it right.

It's the left that somehow believes that right and wrong should be determined by public opinion polls.

96 posted on 10/10/2007 12:50:20 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: jmc813
Would you support laws banning room-mates of the opposite sex?

Of course not. I don't even support laws banning cohabitation of involved unmarried couples.

97 posted on 10/10/2007 12:52:39 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Jim Noble

Is that you, Dad? ;)


98 posted on 10/10/2007 1:01:50 PM PDT by Andonius_99 (LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!!! SHE'S A HUMAN!!! (/s))
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To: wagglebee

I didn’t jump to any conclusions. You meant the comment to be slanderous and you know it. I just called you on it.


99 posted on 10/10/2007 1:01:55 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: wagglebee

I would never marry a woman who would live with me out of wedlock.

Such a woman cannot be trusted, nor trust herself, as much as a woman who insists on being married first.


100 posted on 10/10/2007 1:02:18 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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