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Arleigh Burke-class destroyers 'buckling' under stress, admits USN
Janes.Com ^ | 11 October 2007 | Tara Copp

Posted on 10/11/2007 6:01:19 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Arleigh Burke-class destroyers 'buckling' under stress, admits USN

By Tara Copp

Serious structural defects have been identified throughout the United States Navy's fleet of Arleigh Burke-class destroyers, Jane's can reveal.

The navy (USN) has admitted that many of the 51 ships currently in service are buckling under the stress of higher-than-anticipated loads at sea.

The impact of rough-sea slamming on the bow has led to warping of main transverse bulkhead beams and some of the cribbing, a source said.

Repairs and strengthening work is already being carried out on the latest Flight IIA ships as well as vessels from the earlier production batches.

In September, for example, one of the newest destroyers - USS Gridley (DDG 101) - was undergoing repairs for beam warping during post-shakedown availability (PSA) at BAE Systems' shipyard in San Diego, California. Weakened support beams were cut out, reinforced and replaced.

Specialised labour was required because the task involved strengthening beams in very tight spots above the Gridley's sonar equipment room.

But the problem is widespread; according to a presentation on 21 September by Rear Admiral Kevin McCoy, the chief engineer at Naval Sea Systems Command's Naval Systems Engineering Directorate, the navy approved a USD62 million "bow-strengthening backfit" to address "local buckling of deck transverse beams" and other structural damage in a number of destroyers.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aegis; arleighburke; destroyer; destroyers; enemywithin; engineering; gramsci; navalengineering; navy; sabotage; usn
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1 posted on 10/11/2007 6:01:25 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“You may fire when you are ready, Glidley”


2 posted on 10/11/2007 6:04:20 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Questions.
1. Who designed it?
2. Where was it built?
3. Why didn’t the design review process pick up the design flaws? 4. Were there any warnings of the problems as the ships were being built?
3 posted on 10/11/2007 6:11:24 AM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (Swift as the wind; Calmly majestic as a forest; Steady as the mountains.)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

Classic design issue. Let’s put a cruiser into a destroyer.


4 posted on 10/11/2007 6:13:24 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
... Jane's can reveal.

Who said they "can" reveal that info? Or should???

5 posted on 10/11/2007 6:17:36 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine
Can you say "Aluminum"
6 posted on 10/11/2007 6:20:11 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: AppyPappy

So you see it as the lengthening of a destroyer design to get a cruiser class on the cheap has led to having on-going structural issues?


7 posted on 10/11/2007 6:20:20 AM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

8 posted on 10/11/2007 6:20:42 AM PDT by 1rudeboy (Sorry, I couldn't resist.)
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To: theDentist

Jane’s is British; that’s a British idiom. I think it’s intended to imply that they sat on the story until they checked the facts. Having done so, they “can now reveal blah-de-blah”. IOW, publish the story.


9 posted on 10/11/2007 6:21:16 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: theDentist

Jane’s is an authority on such matters. It’s not difficult to imagine that it “released” this information with permission.


10 posted on 10/11/2007 6:22:54 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: camle

“The impact of rough-sea slamming on the bow has led to warping of main transverse bulkhead beams and some of the cribbing, a source said..”

Global warming claims yet another victim. It’s Bush’s fault.


11 posted on 10/11/2007 6:24:06 AM PDT by newnhdad
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To: Citizen Tom Paine
3. Why didn’t the design review process pick up the design flaws?

They probably wouldn't: the culprit is "higher-than-anticipated loads at sea." They probably did the math right, but the loads model was wrong.

A serious, but not necessarily an obvious problem.

The question is: does the same modeling error affect other ships?

12 posted on 10/11/2007 6:25:42 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I’m having trouble envisioning warping ACROSS the keel. Are the forces coming from the sides of the bow, causing the transverse bulkheads to warp vertically? Or are they longitudinal forces that bend the bulkheads perpendicular to the keel?


13 posted on 10/11/2007 6:26:48 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: 1rudeboy; ArrogantBustard

Yes, I’m sure that Janes did thoroughly check their facts etc. I guess it’s the age old question: when SHOULD such information be published... especially during a time of war.


14 posted on 10/11/2007 6:28:29 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: theDentist
when SHOULD such information be published

It's probably almost impossible to hide it ... and since we're not going up against the Barbary Pirates in a pitched naval battle it probably doesn't make much difference. The problem has been caught, and will be corrected. There are probably lots of issues that are much more sensitive, and much more in need of being kept under cover. If we were currently in a shooting match with PRC, I'd think differently.

15 posted on 10/11/2007 6:34:15 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine
1. Who designed it? The Coast Guard.
2. Where was it built? Moe’s Pawn and Shipbuilding. E55th and Lexington.
3. Why didn’t the design review process pick up the design flaws? It was discussed over the 9th green.

4. Were there any warnings of the problems as the ships were being built? Plenty and daily, but you had to have a few after work beers with the guys, and what the heck do working class shipbuilders know anyways? The ship was overseen by Navy engineers that never made a plywood skiff in any of their lives.

16 posted on 10/11/2007 6:35:21 AM PDT by Leisler (Sugar, the gateway to diabetes, misery and death. Stop Sugar Deaths NOW!)
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To: theDentist
"...Specialised labour was required because the task involved strengthening beams in very tight spots above the Gridley's sonar equipment room..."

I don't get it. Is "specialized labour" referring to asian tiny-framed people? That's racist. I wonder if the criteria is that you have to be to fit in a dashboard or a car's seat.

17 posted on 10/11/2007 6:36:44 AM PDT by -=SoylentSquirrel=- (I'm getting ready for the Alamo II. I predict a different outcome this time around.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Agreed, but can’t it be revealed after the corrective actions have been completed? I’m just a bit irritable this morning.


18 posted on 10/11/2007 6:39:00 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: KC Burke

Trying to put too much into too little.

“Let’s put some 100km AA missiles in it. And AEGIS. And Tomahawks. And VLS Harpoons. And some torpedos. And a gun. And a helicopter.”


19 posted on 10/11/2007 6:39:12 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The Arleigh Burke was commissioned in 1991. They’re just now finding structural flaws in the design class? Or did they redesign the newest build hulls?


20 posted on 10/11/2007 6:41:27 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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