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HARRY REID CALLS EVANGELICALS 'ANTI-CHRISTIAN' (Lonsberry)
boblonsberry.com ^ | 10/11/07 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 10/11/2007 6:09:12 AM PDT by shortstop

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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

No need to apolizige! My husband was born and raised in OKC., not that that has anything to do with Reid’s statements.


21 posted on 10/11/2007 6:39:17 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: muawiyah



22 posted on 10/11/2007 6:39:42 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: massgopguy

“Harry Reid has it posted on his web-site that he is a better member of his church because he is a Democrat.”


So Harry claims to be a better Mormon? I think the more appropriate spelling for him omits the second m.


23 posted on 10/11/2007 6:39:47 AM PDT by hotshu (Rush is RIGHT! The left is WRONG!)
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To: shortstop

Do you have any link to what he actually said? I’ve read the transcript of his speech that was published before he delivered it, and I couldn’t find anything attacking mormon leaders, or talking about evangelicals.

I can’t write about it if I can’t link to a source :-)


24 posted on 10/11/2007 6:41:42 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: shortstop
Of evangelicals – whom he called “the Christian far right” -- Harry Reid said, “They are the most anti-Christian people I can imagine.”

Ping to read later

25 posted on 10/11/2007 6:42:00 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Therefore the prudent keep silent at that time, for it is an evil time." - Amos 5:13)
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To: shortstop

Harry Reid is as mean spirited as you can get - his egregious take on Christianity, Mormons, or any sect, is just plain uncomfortable for the rest of us. Harry Reid must have a tumor on the brain, something is driving him plain nuts.....except when it comes to land deals………………. Where is the ethics committee on Reid, he should be recused or what ever form you use to get rid of a US Senator who ain’t fitten to represent my country in any form.


26 posted on 10/11/2007 6:42:18 AM PDT by yoe ( NO THIRD TERM FOR THE CLINTON'S!!!)
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To: shortstop
Another prominent Mormon politician is Mitt Romney. His political future may well be determined by evangelical Christian voters in southern primaries. Their greatest stumbling block is the fear by some that Mormons aren't Christians. Mitt's supporters must convince them to suspend their religious suspicions and give him the benefit of the doubt. That becomes less likely when Mormon Harry Reid turns around and calls them “anti-Christian.”

Well, since the remark doesn't hurt Reid's political career one bit but just might hurt his fellow Mormon Mitt Romney's attempts to win over evangelical voters, it' s not unreasonable to speculate that's exactly why he made it.

27 posted on 10/11/2007 6:42:47 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: hotshu

You do have a point...He needs more or else he ought to retire. I think the Congress & Senate ought to be tested for drugs,alcohol & dementia. Since regular people can be tested in their jobs so should they.


28 posted on 10/11/2007 6:50:11 AM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah & Muslims ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: Alex Murphy

Does Harry include Bill Clinton, Al Gore and Jimmy Carter? All Southern Baptist!


29 posted on 10/11/2007 6:52:04 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Coldwater Creek

As an evangelical Christian I am laughing...I mean, really...


30 posted on 10/11/2007 6:55:38 AM PDT by freepertoo
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Their greatest stumbling block is the fear by some that Mormons aren't Christians.

The fact is that most mainstream Christians DON'T consider Mormons to be Christian "sect". There are just too many Mormon beliefs that place them outside of the very definition of Christian theology.

Fortunately for Romney, most Christians can live with a Mormon President, as they are comfortable with Mormon social values. And that's the way he needs to pitch it.

I won't be persuaded that Mormonism is a Christian sect, because it isn't. But I can easily be persuaded to work for Romney's election, if he is the nominee.
31 posted on 10/11/2007 6:58:54 AM PDT by horse_doc (Visualize a world where a tactical nuke went off at Max Yasgur's farm in 1969.)
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To: muawiyah

Do you not wonder why they are not more outraged?


32 posted on 10/11/2007 6:59:55 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: shortstop

I have not heard him say anything against Muslims. I have heard him go into ecstasy over illegal aliens.


33 posted on 10/11/2007 7:03:49 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: shortstop
It's not my call, of course, but after reading what Dingy Harry said at BYU, I'll be surprised if he isn't excommunicated.

He's literally coming out in open rebellion against the leadership of the Church, as far as I can tell. That's usually excommunication material.

Arrogance: Harry Reid

34 posted on 10/11/2007 7:04:11 AM PDT by TChris (Cartels (oil, diamonds, labor) are bad. Free-market competition is good.)
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To: shortstop

In Harrys’ frustration he revealed the democrat view of Christians and Christianity. All of Hillary and OBamas acting saying the republican don’t own the ‘faith issue’, was a veiled contrivance. This has always been their view of Christianity, despite their protestations to the contrary. These people live a life in the realm of fiction, cabable of confabulating on any subject at the speed of thought. They are liars and always will be liars. There is no truth in any of the democrats.


35 posted on 10/11/2007 7:05:21 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: TChris

As George Bailey would say; “You’re nothing but a warped, frustrated old man.”


36 posted on 10/11/2007 7:13:26 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: shortstop

LORD, GOD, PLEASE, Isn’t it long past time that he left the public stage? Would you please arrange it? Amen.


37 posted on 10/11/2007 7:26:37 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: massgopguy

He is a scab on a festering wound.

= = =

I think it’s more accurate to assert that he’s quite akin to . . .

the oozing puss from a grossly infected hemroid on a syphlitic donkey.


38 posted on 10/11/2007 7:30:08 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: massgopguy

Or may be more accurately . . .

the oozing puss from a grossly infected hemroid on her unroyal lowness—her hideous heinous—Shrillery.


39 posted on 10/11/2007 7:30:56 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: shortstop
Actually, let's drop the outrage for a minute and ask a couple of questions.

First, does Reid get any traction from a comment like this?

The answer is "yes." He gets a lot of traction from it.

The second question is, "Why does he get traction?" There are several different answers, a few of which I'll toss in below.

Obviously he will get traction from liberals, but that's a given.

He probably gets some serious traction with it among Mormons, whose religion is often rather sharply denigrated by "evangelicals." That's natural, and "evangelicals" have only themselves to blame for it.

And Reid probably gets traction -- in some cases perhaps quite a bit of it -- among practicing Christians who do not consider themselves "evangelicals," and whose experiences with "evangelicals" (self-described) have been unpleasant.

The problem, of course, is to properly define exactly who are the "evangelicals." It's a very slippery term, and difficult to define precisely.

But Reid isn't relying on a definition -- he's appealing to people's subjective opinion of "evangelicals." We've all met people who describe themselves as "evangelicals," and who exhibit an unpleasant priggishness, shallowness, and judgmentalism that gives one the creeps -- in much the same way a really ardent Greenie does. (We meet people like that all the time, from all walks of life. The difference is that these unpleasant ones strongly and proudly introduce themselves as Christians.)

I'm not saying that all, or even most, "evangelicals" fall into that class: they don't. But everybody knows people like this, whose behavior makes Christianity seem unpleasant.

Harry Reid is playing on that, and he will score points with it.

40 posted on 10/11/2007 7:34:56 AM PDT by r9etb
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