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MASTERMIND OF FIRST TWIN TOWERS ATTACK CLAIMS HE HAS CONVERTED TO CHRISTIANITY
Drudge Report ^ | October 11, 2007 | Drudge Flash

Posted on 10/11/2007 10:42:34 AM PDT by Squidpup

Ramzi Yousef, the mastermind of the first terrorist attack on the World Trade Center, claims he converted from Islam to Christianity, Scott Pelley reports in a story that brings viewers inside the secretive "Supermax" prison where he is being held. Pelley also reports that some 900 force feedings were performed on other al-Qaeda terrorists who went on repeated hunger strikes to protest conditions at the Colorado top-security federal prison. The 60 MINUTES segment will be broadcast Sunday Oct. 14 (7:30-9:00 PM, ET/7:00-9:00 PM, PT) on the CBS Television Network.

The prison in Florence, Colo., which the government calls ADX-Florence for Administrative Maximum, houses the nation's toughest and most infamous criminals, such as Olympic bomber Eric Rudolph, would-be 9/11 terrorist Zacarias Moussaoui, Oklahoma City bomber Terry Nichols and shoe bomber Richard Reid. 60 MINUTES obtained exclusive footage of prisoners inside the facility, where special-case prisoners are allowed only a phone call a month, spend 23 hours a day in their 12-by-7 cells and can get mail only from people approved by the prison.

Robert Hood, its warden from 2002 to 2005, says Yousef was a special case. He never left his cell because he did not want to face the indignity of a strip search required for recreation. "He has that Charlie Manson look," says Hood of Yousef. "He has some charisma about him. He's in [prison] uniform, but you know that there's a powerful person you're looking at," Hood says. Told that Yousef has begun leaving his cell and now claims to be a Christian, Hood says, "He's playing a game with someone. If he's doing that, he's doing it for the reaction....He is the real deal," he tells Pelley. As a Muslim, Yousef prayed almost every hour, remembers Hood.

Other Qaeda terrorists protested the special conditions with hunger strikes that Hood had to end with force feedings. "I probably...authorized, conducted 350, maybe 400 involuntary feedings," recalls Hood. "You could have one person, three meals a day for...two months."

Pelley also speaks with a corrections officer inside ADX-Florence, who tells him what she heard on 9/11 after terrorist prisoners saw the destruction on their televisions. "We had a lot of them jump up and down. ...scream and yell and clap and they were very excited," says Barbara Batulis, who heads the prison's staff union. She also characterizes the Muslim extremists as needy. "They want more than what they have coming," she says. "They want extra toilet paper...writing paper...extra envelopes and if you can't give them, they want to see a supervisor right then and there."

Batulis would rather work among the other prisoners because she is female. "It's very obvious, [Muslim extremists] just look at you with sheer disdain." Hate can turn into threats. "A terrorist inmate threatened to kill my family, because I was doing my job," Batulis tells Pelley. Batulis says the prison needs more officers. "...We are very short staffed. I firmly believe that staff lives are at stake," she says.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 1993wtcattack; 1993wtcbombing; bornagain; exmuslims; fakebutaccurate; inmates; ramziyousef; seebs; wot
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1 posted on 10/11/2007 10:42:44 AM PDT by Squidpup
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To: Squidpup

Ann Coulter scared the livin’ sh!t out of him and he converted.


2 posted on 10/11/2007 10:45:07 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: Squidpup
I wonder what caused this conversion?

I hope it’s true ... but I am skeptical.

3 posted on 10/11/2007 10:45:12 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Squidpup

His teachers back in England say he’s not the real Ramsi Yousif. The real one’s body will never be found.


4 posted on 10/11/2007 10:45:44 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Squidpup
Yeah, all the axe-murderers, child-molesters, rapists, etc. suddenly "see the light" or "find Jesus"......as soon as it's convienient to do so.

Taking 3000+ innocent lives cannot result in anything but an end to this person EVER seeing the outside world again, and his "conversion", if genuine, is between him and Judgement Day; not an excuse for release as "saved".

5 posted on 10/11/2007 10:46:32 AM PDT by traditional1 ( Fred Thompson-The ONLY electable Republican Candidate)
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To: nmh

The story seems skeptical. Sorry all for the all-caps headline


6 posted on 10/11/2007 10:46:42 AM PDT by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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To: Squidpup
Well, I suppose I file this under the blind hog every now and then finding an acorn but it is surprising to me how many prisoners facing long sentences or on death row suddenly discover Jesus. And it is doubly surprising that a son of Allah would.
7 posted on 10/11/2007 10:47:21 AM PDT by meandog (I'm one of the FEW and the BRAVE FReepers still supporting John McCain)
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To: Squidpup

“Pelley also reports that some 900 force feedings were performed on other al-Qaeda terrorists..”

Why do we feed adults who have decided not to eat? Let them starve themselves if that’s what they want to do.


8 posted on 10/11/2007 10:47:30 AM PDT by 353FMG (Government is the opiate of the people.)
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To: Squidpup

Big deal, as we’ve seen its Democrats coming out for Jesus this month.....


9 posted on 10/11/2007 10:47:32 AM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: BOBTHENAILER

“Ann Coulter scared the livin’ sh!t out of him and he converted.”

Not possible. He would have evaporated entirely.


10 posted on 10/11/2007 10:47:35 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Squidpup

I guess the only way to know for sure is to kill him and see if he goes to heaven or hell...


11 posted on 10/11/2007 10:47:45 AM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: Squidpup

If he’s truly converted (which he isn’t), then God will have mercy on his soul. Doesn’t mean WE have to have any mercy on his BODY.


12 posted on 10/11/2007 10:47:55 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Squidpup

Hope so, but we’ll see.....Jane Fonda claimed the same thing, don’t think it “took”.


13 posted on 10/11/2007 10:48:07 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Squidpup

The democrats are very upset to hear the way we are mistreating mass murderers who applauded while watching 3,000 Americans being slaughtered.


14 posted on 10/11/2007 10:48:13 AM PDT by Williams
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To: Squidpup
Pelley also speaks with a corrections officer inside ADX-Florence, who tells him what she heard on 9/11 after terrorist prisoners saw the destruction on their televisions. "We had a lot of them jump up and down. ...scream and yell and clap and they were very excited," says Barbara Batulis, who heads the prison's staff union.

Why do these subhumans even have access to a television?

15 posted on 10/11/2007 10:48:43 AM PDT by Spiff (<------ Mitt Romney Supporter (Don't tase me, bro!) Go Mitt! www.mittromney.com)
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To: Squidpup
"I probably...authorized, conducted 350, maybe 400 involuntary feedings," recalls Hood.

See....you skeptics here at FR, Jimmuh Carter is right. We torture our prisoners

And personally, I'M DAMN PROUD WE DO

16 posted on 10/11/2007 10:49:03 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: Squidpup

Program notes: Filming this interview was difficult and time-consuming because Ramzi’s pants kept bursting into flames.


17 posted on 10/11/2007 10:49:46 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: BOBTHENAILER

The bad news is , he says Fred is not a real Christian .


18 posted on 10/11/2007 10:50:00 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: Squidpup

I was certain it was Scrappleface at first..


19 posted on 10/11/2007 10:50:04 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Squidpup
Interesting, maybe someone ought to offer him a bacon sandwich and see if he eats it.
20 posted on 10/11/2007 10:50:40 AM PDT by mware (Americans in armchairs....doing the job of the media.)
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To: 3AngelaD

LOL.


21 posted on 10/11/2007 10:51:09 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Squidpup

So videotape him praising Jesus Christ, and broadcast it to the Muslim world.


22 posted on 10/11/2007 10:51:52 AM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: Squidpup
Takeyya

Lying for Allah is okay, according to the eminent Islamic scholar Imam Ghazali, who wrote:

" When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible " (Ref: Ahmad Ibn Naqib al-Misri, The Reliance of the Traveller, translated by Nuh Ha Mim Keller , Amana publications, 1997, section r8.2, page 745). Imam Ghazali does not say this without knowledge. He is basing his fatwa on the words and examples of the Prophet himself.

In one hadith we read that the prophet calls upon his followers to assassinate Ka’b ibn Ashraf, the chief of a Jewish tribe who was wary of Muhammad and tells them it is okay to tell a lie to deceive him. Bukhari, Volume 5, #369

The fact is that Muslims feel no pang of conscience to lie if that lie is said for Allah’s sake and his religion. If the lie is said for a good cause it is okay.

(...) Muhammad said: "Lying is wrong, *except in three things: the lie of a man to his wife to make her content with him; a lie to an enemy, for **war is deception; or a lie to settle trouble between people" (Ahmad, 6.459. H).

(...) *Islam is the only religion that implies in it's scriptures that it's ever permissible to lie.

(...) **any non Muslim land is considered Dar ul Harb a land of war

[lying to infidels]

In Shi'a Islamic as well as Druze tradition, Taqiyya (fear, guard against')[1] is the dispensation allowing believers to conceal their faith when under threat, persecution or compulsion. It is based on Qur'an verses 3:28 and 16:106 as well as hadith, tafsir literature, and juridical commentaries.[2] Some Sunnis assert that Taqiyya is an act of hypocrisy that serves to conceal the truth. According to them, Taqiyya constitutes a lack of faith and trust in God because the person who conceals his beliefs to spare himself from danger is fearful of humans, when he should be fearful of God only.

http://www.answers.com/topic/taqiyya

23 posted on 10/11/2007 10:51:52 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Squidpup

Will 60 minutes view this as some type of torture? That we imprisoned him and forced him to become a Christian?


24 posted on 10/11/2007 10:52:07 AM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: Squidpup

Incredible if true, just incredible. Jesus can reach any heart, but to see it is just amazing. I am skeptical, but given the penalties for apostasy in Islam, I am also doubtful he is lying.


25 posted on 10/11/2007 10:52:11 AM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: nmh

I’m a little skeptical too but let’s shout if from the rooftops and make sure all the muslims in the world hear about it.


26 posted on 10/11/2007 10:52:35 AM PDT by tiki
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To: Squidpup

27 posted on 10/11/2007 10:53:24 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping that it will eat him last..)
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28 posted on 10/11/2007 10:53:57 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Squidpup

He converted and I am the Tooth Fairy!


29 posted on 10/11/2007 10:55:54 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Liberals want equality of outcome not equality of opportunity.)
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To: Miss Didi; Frank_Discussion
KILL THEIR LEADERS AND CONVERT THEM TO CHRISTIANITY.

beautiful post

30 posted on 10/11/2007 10:56:25 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: TornadoAlley3

what a lovely holiday tree!


31 posted on 10/11/2007 10:57:08 AM PDT by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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To: Squidpup
Praise the Lord, but keep passing the ammo just in case.
32 posted on 10/11/2007 10:57:54 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Spiff
Why do these subhumans even have access to a television?

I would have preempted the 9/11 programming with some hardcore porno just to piss them off.
33 posted on 10/11/2007 10:58:07 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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To: Squidpup

Converted to Christianity my rear end.

Are Muslims not supposed to lie, cheat and deceive infidels even if it means going against Islam (though in truth their hearts are still entirely with Islam)? (rhetorical question)


34 posted on 10/11/2007 10:59:21 AM PDT by Kolb
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To: Squidpup

oh goodie...a new fatwa is gonna be announced!


35 posted on 10/11/2007 11:00:52 AM PDT by woollyone (Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities- Ayn Rand)
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To: Squidpup

Why do force feedings? Let them starve themselves to death.


36 posted on 10/11/2007 11:04:05 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Mikey_1962
If he say he has converted and his contemporaries let him live, its probably a lie.
37 posted on 10/11/2007 11:04:12 AM PDT by oyez (Justa' another high minded lowlife.)
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To: Squidpup

I thought this was Scrappleface at first...

I’m skeptical he really has converted, but there’s no way I can know for sure. I hope he has, but I doubt it.


38 posted on 10/11/2007 11:04:35 AM PDT by G8 Diplomat (Know thy enemy. Learn Farsi.)
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To: BOBTHENAILER

The Koran says it is not a sin to lie to the Infidels. Nuff said.


39 posted on 10/11/2007 11:06:57 AM PDT by 50sDad (Angels on asteroids are abducting crop circles!)
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To: traditional1

Ramzi Yousef was involved in the 1993 WTC bombing, not the 9/11 attacks.


40 posted on 10/11/2007 11:08:14 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (The WOT will end when pork products are weaponized)
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To: IronJack

EXACTLY! What YOU said......only GOD is the one to know for sure....the rest of us can remain doubtful.


41 posted on 10/11/2007 11:08:45 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character! Being Coddled Destroys Character!)
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To: Squidpup

Hmmm....then maybe he has a chance for Gods forgiveness when he dies in prison.


42 posted on 10/11/2007 11:10:37 AM PDT by Dreagon
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To: Squidpup
See if he’ll eat a pork sandwich now.
43 posted on 10/11/2007 11:18:48 AM PDT by Lancer_N3502A
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To: 2banana
The Koran is so full of intelligent advice, isn’t it? Snort. If they don’t know who you are, lying is second nature. It’s how they communicate with non-muslim strangers. It creates instant obstacles that one learns how to work through with practice. Trust is non-existent.
44 posted on 10/11/2007 11:20:13 AM PDT by Melinda
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To: Squidpup
Didn’t he continue to plot attacks from within prison and have such plans smuggled out by his lawyer? Or am I thinking of a different terrorist?

Will he now have his attacks enumerated as “Christian terrorist acts”?

45 posted on 10/11/2007 11:25:32 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: Our man in washington

Videotape him denying Mohammed and post it to youtube.


46 posted on 10/11/2007 11:29:25 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: Squidpup

Unfortunately, its CBS doing this and we know they will be totally ANTI-AMERICA and this will be one more puff piece for the Terrorists.


47 posted on 10/11/2007 11:29:57 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (God Bless America and The Republicans)
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To: Squidpup

no virgins for you!


48 posted on 10/11/2007 11:31:38 AM PDT by Archytekt
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To: Squidpup

Good if true, but muslims are allowed to lie to us infidels without penalty.


49 posted on 10/11/2007 11:35:09 AM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Nope. Not gonna do it.)
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To: domenad

but given the penalties for apostasy in Islam, I am also doubtful he is lying.

________________

I tend to agree with you. This is not Jane Fonda. I’d like to know if he said this on film.


50 posted on 10/11/2007 11:41:39 AM PDT by conservativepoet
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