Posted on 10/11/2007 10:42:34 AM PDT by Squidpup
Ramzi Yousef, the mastermind of the first terrorist attack on the World Trade Center, claims he converted from Islam to Christianity, Scott Pelley reports in a story that brings viewers inside the secretive "Supermax" prison where he is being held. Pelley also reports that some 900 force feedings were performed on other al-Qaeda terrorists who went on repeated hunger strikes to protest conditions at the Colorado top-security federal prison. The 60 MINUTES segment will be broadcast Sunday Oct. 14 (7:30-9:00 PM, ET/7:00-9:00 PM, PT) on the CBS Television Network.
The prison in Florence, Colo., which the government calls ADX-Florence for Administrative Maximum, houses the nation's toughest and most infamous criminals, such as Olympic bomber Eric Rudolph, would-be 9/11 terrorist Zacarias Moussaoui, Oklahoma City bomber Terry Nichols and shoe bomber Richard Reid. 60 MINUTES obtained exclusive footage of prisoners inside the facility, where special-case prisoners are allowed only a phone call a month, spend 23 hours a day in their 12-by-7 cells and can get mail only from people approved by the prison.
Robert Hood, its warden from 2002 to 2005, says Yousef was a special case. He never left his cell because he did not want to face the indignity of a strip search required for recreation. "He has that Charlie Manson look," says Hood of Yousef. "He has some charisma about him. He's in [prison] uniform, but you know that there's a powerful person you're looking at," Hood says. Told that Yousef has begun leaving his cell and now claims to be a Christian, Hood says, "He's playing a game with someone. If he's doing that, he's doing it for the reaction....He is the real deal," he tells Pelley. As a Muslim, Yousef prayed almost every hour, remembers Hood.
Other Qaeda terrorists protested the special conditions with hunger strikes that Hood had to end with force feedings. "I probably...authorized, conducted 350, maybe 400 involuntary feedings," recalls Hood. "You could have one person, three meals a day for...two months."
Pelley also speaks with a corrections officer inside ADX-Florence, who tells him what she heard on 9/11 after terrorist prisoners saw the destruction on their televisions. "We had a lot of them jump up and down. ...scream and yell and clap and they were very excited," says Barbara Batulis, who heads the prison's staff union. She also characterizes the Muslim extremists as needy. "They want more than what they have coming," she says. "They want extra toilet paper...writing paper...extra envelopes and if you can't give them, they want to see a supervisor right then and there."
Batulis would rather work among the other prisoners because she is female. "It's very obvious, [Muslim extremists] just look at you with sheer disdain." Hate can turn into threats. "A terrorist inmate threatened to kill my family, because I was doing my job," Batulis tells Pelley. Batulis says the prison needs more officers. "...We are very short staffed. I firmly believe that staff lives are at stake," she says.
Developing...
Ann Coulter scared the livin’ sh!t out of him and he converted.
I hope it’s true ... but I am skeptical.
His teachers back in England say he’s not the real Ramsi Yousif. The real one’s body will never be found.
Taking 3000+ innocent lives cannot result in anything but an end to this person EVER seeing the outside world again, and his "conversion", if genuine, is between him and Judgement Day; not an excuse for release as "saved".
The story seems skeptical. Sorry all for the all-caps headline
“Pelley also reports that some 900 force feedings were performed on other al-Qaeda terrorists..”
Why do we feed adults who have decided not to eat? Let them starve themselves if that’s what they want to do.
Big deal, as we’ve seen its Democrats coming out for Jesus this month.....
“Ann Coulter scared the livin’ sh!t out of him and he converted.”
Not possible. He would have evaporated entirely.
I guess the only way to know for sure is to kill him and see if he goes to heaven or hell...
If he’s truly converted (which he isn’t), then God will have mercy on his soul. Doesn’t mean WE have to have any mercy on his BODY.
Hope so, but we’ll see.....Jane Fonda claimed the same thing, don’t think it “took”.
The democrats are very upset to hear the way we are mistreating mass murderers who applauded while watching 3,000 Americans being slaughtered.
Why do these subhumans even have access to a television?
See....you skeptics here at FR, Jimmuh Carter is right. We torture our prisoners
And personally, I'M DAMN PROUD WE DO
Program notes: Filming this interview was difficult and time-consuming because Ramzi’s pants kept bursting into flames.
The bad news is , he says Fred is not a real Christian .
I was certain it was Scrappleface at first..
LOL.
So videotape him praising Jesus Christ, and broadcast it to the Muslim world.
Lying for Allah is okay, according to the eminent Islamic scholar Imam Ghazali, who wrote:
" When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible " (Ref: Ahmad Ibn Naqib al-Misri, The Reliance of the Traveller, translated by Nuh Ha Mim Keller , Amana publications, 1997, section r8.2, page 745). Imam Ghazali does not say this without knowledge. He is basing his fatwa on the words and examples of the Prophet himself.
In one hadith we read that the prophet calls upon his followers to assassinate Ka’b ibn Ashraf, the chief of a Jewish tribe who was wary of Muhammad and tells them it is okay to tell a lie to deceive him. Bukhari, Volume 5, #369
The fact is that Muslims feel no pang of conscience to lie if that lie is said for Allah’s sake and his religion. If the lie is said for a good cause it is okay.
(...) Muhammad said: "Lying is wrong, *except in three things: the lie of a man to his wife to make her content with him; a lie to an enemy, for **war is deception; or a lie to settle trouble between people" (Ahmad, 6.459. H).
(...) *Islam is the only religion that implies in it's scriptures that it's ever permissible to lie.
(...) **any non Muslim land is considered Dar ul Harb a land of war
[lying to infidels]
In Shi'a Islamic as well as Druze tradition, Taqiyya (fear, guard against')[1] is the dispensation allowing believers to conceal their faith when under threat, persecution or compulsion. It is based on Qur'an verses 3:28 and 16:106 as well as hadith, tafsir literature, and juridical commentaries.[2] Some Sunnis assert that Taqiyya is an act of hypocrisy that serves to conceal the truth. According to them, Taqiyya constitutes a lack of faith and trust in God because the person who conceals his beliefs to spare himself from danger is fearful of humans, when he should be fearful of God only.
http://www.answers.com/topic/taqiyya
Will 60 minutes view this as some type of torture? That we imprisoned him and forced him to become a Christian?
Incredible if true, just incredible. Jesus can reach any heart, but to see it is just amazing. I am skeptical, but given the penalties for apostasy in Islam, I am also doubtful he is lying.
I’m a little skeptical too but let’s shout if from the rooftops and make sure all the muslims in the world hear about it.
He converted and I am the Tooth Fairy!
beautiful post
what a lovely holiday tree!
Converted to Christianity my rear end.
Are Muslims not supposed to lie, cheat and deceive infidels even if it means going against Islam (though in truth their hearts are still entirely with Islam)? (rhetorical question)
oh goodie...a new fatwa is gonna be announced!
Why do force feedings? Let them starve themselves to death.
I thought this was Scrappleface at first...
I’m skeptical he really has converted, but there’s no way I can know for sure. I hope he has, but I doubt it.
The Koran says it is not a sin to lie to the Infidels. Nuff said.
Ramzi Yousef was involved in the 1993 WTC bombing, not the 9/11 attacks.
EXACTLY! What YOU said......only GOD is the one to know for sure....the rest of us can remain doubtful.
Hmmm....then maybe he has a chance for Gods forgiveness when he dies in prison.
Will he now have his attacks enumerated as “Christian terrorist acts”?
Videotape him denying Mohammed and post it to youtube.
Unfortunately, its CBS doing this and we know they will be totally ANTI-AMERICA and this will be one more puff piece for the Terrorists.
no virgins for you!
Good if true, but muslims are allowed to lie to us infidels without penalty.
but given the penalties for apostasy in Islam, I am also doubtful he is lying.
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I tend to agree with you. This is not Jane Fonda. I’d like to know if he said this on film.
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