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CNN's Lemon Surprised By Boot-Camp Acquittal: 'Tape Just Sort of Screams at You'
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 10/12/2007 11:45:13 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

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To: L98Fiero

Oh c’mon...

The kid collapsed...they had to frickin hold him up to hit him..

The video speaks for itself...

Nine cops against a limp kid...

you can clearly see his knees buckle and the cops litterally pick him up and continue...

and then they keep working him over on the ground...

Murder?...maybe not....

Involuntary manslaughter?....oh yeah...

He died after being in a coma....as a direct result of the actions of the officers...

If any other group of people had done this...people would be screaming murder...

But it was cops....has to be ok...

This is one time I’d support a full investigation by the DOJ...

The sentence for being unruly is NOT death.


21 posted on 10/12/2007 12:29:11 PM PDT by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....)
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To: domenad

Word.


22 posted on 10/12/2007 12:29:56 PM PDT by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....)
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To: Grimmy
I would suggest, just as a general concept type thing, though...that maybe the folk who actually heard all the evidence, rather than just that tape, developed a different cause-effect relationship.

Fair enough to say so.

Or, maybe it was just white people don’t care about black kids because all whitie are devil? That is what the piece of disinformer paid by CNN tried hard to imply.

The Commie News Network is definitely not above race baiting and other low life tactics.
23 posted on 10/12/2007 12:30:53 PM PDT by JamesP81
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To: AU72

Look whats come out of California. Probably a lot of looting in Florida tonight,sorry I meant peaceful protesting.


24 posted on 10/12/2007 12:31:58 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: domenad

“Don’t mean to sound like Sharpton’s bartender, but if the kid had been white someone would have gone to jail. It’s as simple as that. No, I can’t prove it, but I believe it nonetheless.”

I don’t agree. There were black people among the defendants.


25 posted on 10/12/2007 12:33:10 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Crim

They held him up, thats true. What did they do to cause his death? I don’t see any kicking, beating or physical abuse. I have been critical of police many times but don’t see anything in the video that would lead me to believe they killed him through physical abuse.


26 posted on 10/12/2007 12:35:23 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Crim

I don’t see any one being beaten in that video. what frickin video are you talking about?


27 posted on 10/12/2007 12:37:20 PM PDT by ChinaThreat (s)
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To: ChinaThreat

http://www.nospank.net/7163793.200k.wmv

Must have you lib glasses on...take them off...

the whole vid is around 8 minutes..

knee shots...punches...chokes...all right here..

watch the kids knees buckle.....watch him go limp...

watch it continue...

Oh...he must have been faking...


28 posted on 10/12/2007 12:48:32 PM PDT by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....)
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To: driftdiver

What you saw wasnt the whole video...I posted the whole thing...around 8 minutes long...

First place I could find it...


29 posted on 10/12/2007 12:50:56 PM PDT by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The DBM sounds like they want riots on this verdict...


30 posted on 10/12/2007 12:53:26 PM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Earlier, when I asked you about the racial component, I think the only racial component in this was that the jury was all-white, mostly white in this case, and they [who?] were concerned that the jury may not have, you know, I guess, been compliant [sic] or what have you to a black teenager in all this and they would necessarily find these guards not guilty.

That's his idea of a sentence?

31 posted on 10/12/2007 12:55:48 PM PDT by Steve0113 (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power. -A.L.)
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To: driftdiver

It is not about the defendants, it was about the jury. I believe they saw the victim as someone outside of themselves, someone outside of them rather than a kid that could have easily have been one of their own children. I find it ironic that they likely did not consider the race of the defendants at all. It was the race of the victim that led to this verdict.


32 posted on 10/12/2007 12:57:20 PM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

THe media are in the business of inciting racial hatred.


33 posted on 10/12/2007 12:57:37 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: domenad
but if the kid had been white someone would have gone to jail

If the kid had been white, he would almost certainly not have had sickle cell trait (SCT). Those who do, like this boy, have a high risk of death from exertion.

The jury probably felt that, given the presence of SCT, this death could not be attributed to the guards beyond a reasonable doubt.

34 posted on 10/12/2007 1:06:19 PM PDT by freespirited (All great truths begin as blasphemies. -- George Bernard Shaw)
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To: Steve0113

Bingo. I don’t monitor Lemon closely, but whenever I do catch him I get the sense that he’s in over his head.


35 posted on 10/12/2007 1:06:44 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: domenad

‘I find it ironic that they likely did not consider the race of the defendants at all. It was the race of the victim that led to this verdict.”

I find it highly unlikely they didnt consider the race of both the victim and defendants. I don’t see them saying “Oh he’s black so he deserved it” thats hogwash IMO.

The common perception is that only white people (specfically men) are racist. And that is a flat out misconception.


36 posted on 10/12/2007 1:14:57 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: domenad
It was the race of the victim that led to this verdict.

You have no way of knowing that. You sound to me like you are black, with a lot of the black man's "blame whitey syndrome" for everything that happens to any black. I haven't seen the tape, I haven't followed the case, and I will hold judgement until I read more about it and see the tape, but for you to say, without a doubt, that it was race that drove this aquittal is just BS.

37 posted on 10/12/2007 1:16:14 PM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

I’m white..and I’m sayin it...wanna try and discount that?

I’ll go one father....if he would have been a white kid...you’d be upset too...


38 posted on 10/12/2007 1:21:48 PM PDT by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....)
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To: Crim
I have seen the video and NONE of the physical handling by the officers rises to the level of abuse. The kid had an undiagnosed case of sickle cell anemia and died from complications arising from it. Any strenuous activity, whether from boot camp or midnight basketball could have killed him.

The DA tried to blame the suffocated by the ammonia packet but didn't... strike that.... COULDN'T provide any medical evidence in support it..
39 posted on 10/12/2007 1:22:51 PM PDT by RedMonqey ( The truth is never PC)
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To: freespirited

PANAMA CITY, Fla. (AP) - A teenager who was beaten by guards in a state-run boot camp for juvenile delinquents died from internal bleeding caused by a blood disorder, not from injuries he may have suffered in the beating, a medical examiner reported Thursday.
Martin Lee Anderson suffered from sickle cell trait, which caused his red blood cells to change shape and produce “a whole cascade of events that led to bleeding and hemorrhaging,” said Bay County Medical Examiner Dr. Charles Siebert.

“It was a natural death,” he said.

Medical forms filed at the boot camp did not indicate that the youth or his family were aware of the disorder, which affects about one of every eight black people, Siebert said. The sickle cell disorder would not show up in routine blood tests, he said.

Anderson entered the camp Jan. 5 because of an arrest for theft. He complained of breathing difficulties and collapsed during exercises that were part of the entry process. He died the next day at a Pensacola hospital.

The sheriff’s office, which runs the camp, said Anderson became uncooperative and was restrained. The boy’s mother alleges he was murdered by guards who beat him to death.

Siebert said there were some bruises and abrasions on the boy’s body, but he attributed those to attempts to resuscitate the youth.

The Anderson family’s attorney, Benjamin Crump, was skeptical of the autopsy results and expressed doubt that the sickle cell trait, if it existed, could cause such extensive damage to the teenager’s internal organs.

Also Thursday, the Justice Department announced it would investigate the case, along with the FBI. Federal officials planned to focus on whether camp guards violated Anderson’s rights through use of excessive force or “indifference to serious medical need,” U.S. Attorney Gregory R. Miller said.

On Friday, law enforcement officials planned to make public a videotape that allegedly shows guards beating Anderson. News organizations filed a lawsuit seeking the video.

Copyright 2004 The Associated Press.


bullshit.


40 posted on 10/12/2007 1:25:09 PM PDT by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....)
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