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1 posted on 10/13/2007 9:05:19 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: Salvation; NYer

ping

Maybe the Church has had a spine implant...finally!


2 posted on 10/13/2007 9:06:27 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Uh, it’s not a Vatican teaching that homosexual liaisons are a sin, but a Biblical one. In both the old and new Testaments.

Then there is also that little commandment concerning adultery...


3 posted on 10/13/2007 9:15:39 AM PDT by Don W (I wondered why the baseball was getting bigger. Then it hit me.)
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the monsignor was suspended from his job as a top official in the Vatican's Congregation for Clergy, an office which aims to ensure proper conduct by priests

It's beyond caricature here.

6 posted on 10/13/2007 9:23:34 AM PDT by Argus
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To: kellynla

He “didn’t feel he was sinning”? One has to wonder how some of these types ever make it into the clergy. I think it reflects the desperation of the church. If a priest does not understand the difference between brotherly love and gay sex he shouldn’t be in the order. I pray he has not used his position to have sex with more than gay men but I would doubt it. Gay men have always had taste for young prepubescent boys anyone who has studied the history knows this. The modern world looks the other way and pretends it isn’t true or turns every male on male molestation into an evil heterosexual man because everyone knows gay men can’t possibly harm anyone. I mean we can tell by their innocent little parades how normal they are.

It is good that the tide is holding in some places. If the Vatican had been more diligent in rejecting gay men or men with homosexual tendencies from the priesthood they could’ve avoided much of the controversy of the past few years. The denial has to stop but I doubt it will. People prefer to believe faery tales and proclaim their tolerance while their children are being buggered in the public schools and churches. God help the impressionable and lonely children of the world because those who should protect them cast the lions in among them and call the slaughter good.


7 posted on 10/13/2007 9:29:29 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Saying "No" does not mean that you have no heart but often means you clearly have a mind.)
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To: kellynla

now if only they would do this in the USA.


12 posted on 10/13/2007 9:41:43 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: kellynla
The men, including the monsignor who was suspended, were interviewed with their faces obscured and their voices altered so they would not be recognized. But Vatican officials recognized the Vatican office in which he was being interviewed...

I guess they should have taken the chiffon curtains down...

13 posted on 10/13/2007 9:48:29 AM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: kellynla

A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.


16 posted on 10/13/2007 10:28:42 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Take the wheel, Fred.)
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To: kellynla

Perhaps, fallout from:

Gay street opens in Rome
Yahoo News ^ | August 3, 2007 | MARTA FALCONI

Posted on 08/03/2007 11:36:13 AM PDT by NYer

Rome marked the opening of its first “Gay Street” with flags, banners and protests amid a row over a homosexual couple who claimed they were detained by police for kissing near the Colosseum.

Campaigners welcomed a 325-yard zone in the center of the city — filled with shops and bars — as an area where gays can “feel at ease,” after days of heated debate in predominantly Roman Catholic Italy over the kissing incident.

The two men were detained briefly last week for what the police said were lewd acts in public — a crime that can carry a sentence of up to two years in jail.

“This will be an area where people can feel at ease, and it is also meant to be a bridge between the citizens and the homosexual community,” activist Fabrizio Marrazzo, the Rome leader of Italy’s Arcigay gay rights movement, said Friday.

Police said the two were not just kissing and would have behaved the same way if it had been a heterosexual couple.

Right-wingers have protested the City Hall’s decision to close the area to traffic for three nights a week through Sept. 8.

“Nobody wants to condemn those who practice a different sexuality, but to dedicate a street only to gays and lesbians I think it’s a sort of useless and marginalizing project,” right wing politician Piergiorgio Benvenuti was quoted as saying by the daily Il Giornale.

Gay rights came into the spotlight in Italy when the government recently proposed a bill aimed at granting legal rights to unmarried and same-sex couples.

The legislation sparked controversy and angered the Vatican, which under Pope Benedict XVI has been conducting a fierce campaign to protect traditional marriage between a man and a woman. The bill requires parliamentary approval.


18 posted on 10/13/2007 11:06:38 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: kellynla

Unfortunately, the good monsignor forgot that Rule One was still in effect at the Vatican.


25 posted on 10/13/2007 12:33:42 PM PDT by RichInOC ("Rule One: NO POOFTERS!")
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To: kellynla
"...the monsignor was suspended from his job as a top official in the Vatican's Congregation for Clergy, an office which aims to ensure proper conduct by priests....who is Italian."

NAME(S)?

29 posted on 10/13/2007 8:34:58 PM PDT by right-wingin_It
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