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To: backtothestreets

You would have to have some kind of vote of the citizens in the unshaded counties.

Has this every happened before? There is probably a need for a consititutional convention of the succeeding counties. (expect ahrnold to crash the party)

Of course western california will then go over the top left.


6 posted on 10/14/2007 6:11:38 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

The entire present state would vote on the initiative.

Yes, there would be a constitutional convention, but no Arnie would not have a role. His residence is located in the shaded area that would comprise the lesser state. Delegates to a constitutional convention forming the new would have to reside within the new state.


15 posted on 10/14/2007 6:30:23 AM PDT by backtothestreets (My bologna has a first name, it's J-O-R-G-E)
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To: longtermmemmory
The entire present state would vote on the initiative. There have been efforts made in the past to split the state north and south. All that would do is create a second liberal California. This proposal would create a new conservative California and isolate the liberal California.

Yes, there would be a constitutional convention, but no Arnie would not have a role. His residence is located in the shaded area that would comprise the lesser state. Delegates to a constitutional convention forming the new would have to reside within the new state.

16 posted on 10/14/2007 6:33:32 AM PDT by backtothestreets (My bologna has a first name, it's J-O-R-G-E)
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To: longtermmemmory
Has this every happened before?

Well Maine was part of Massachusetts until 1820, when it was admitted as a new state simultaneously with the new state of Missouri, to keep the balance in the US Senate between Slave and Free States (the 'Missouri Compromise'). Maine was a 'Department' of Massachusetts, and voted in the 18 - teens for separation from Massachusetts. The Massachusetts legislature finally agreed in 1819.

Technically West Virginia voted to leave Virginia in 1861, and the Virginia legislature voted to agree. The catch was that only the Virginia legislators who were loyal to the Union attended the session, and they were essentially entirely residents of West Virginia.

Texas, formerly an independent nation, by the terms of its treaty of annexation, can vote to split into as many as five states, possibly without Congressional approval (this is disputed).

102 posted on 10/16/2007 1:12:01 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (IF TREASON IS THE QUESTION, THEN MOVEON.ORG IS THE ANSWER!)
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