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Teachers Should Pack in Case Students are Attacked
Townhall ^ | October 13, 2007 | Doug Giles

Posted on 10/15/2007 3:55:00 AM PDT by tcostell

“Should properly trained and licensed teachers be allowed to carry guns into their classrooms?” That’s the $64k question being tossed around this week (once again) after Satan’s latest spawn, Asa Coon, stooge emeritus, decided to shoot up his Cleveland high school’s teachers and classmates this week. How about, yes teachers should be allowed to lock and load because not being able to doesn’t seem to be working.

As far as I’m concerned, a responsible and trained teacher should ab-so-frickin’-lutely be able to carry on campus.

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Another discussion sparked by someone shooting up the "Gun Free School Zone. We had a debate ongoing in my local distrcit about this which is detailed in part here at "Radio Free NJ":

http://freenj.blogspot.com/2007/06/here-is-particularly-entertaining.html

1 posted on 10/15/2007 3:55:03 AM PDT by tcostell
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http://freenj.blogspot.com/2007/06/here-is-particularly-entertaining.html
2 posted on 10/15/2007 3:56:58 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: tcostell

Teachers who know how to handle a weapon safely should pack heat.

The crazy killer students, not to mention the terrorists, don’t give a rip about “gun free school zones.”


3 posted on 10/15/2007 4:23:33 AM PDT by Nextrush (Proudly uncommitted in the 2008 race for president for now)
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To: Nextrush

I wonder how many teachers actually carried or were allowed to carry before the federal ban under Clinton.

John Lott has commented on this in a vague and legalistic manner, e.g. in some states a teacher could carry and in others they couldn’t, but that doesn’t say much.

Anyone have any sense of the actual number who really did keep a firearm in the purse or jacket pocket?


4 posted on 10/15/2007 4:31:39 AM PDT by angkor ("Hyeah right. The man who singlehandedly killed ManBearPig is a loser." Al Gore, South Park 10.06)
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To: Nextrush

I would vote for trying taser guns first. You know those three days in August when all the teachers have to show up for “teacher work days”. Instead of some of the psychological, political correctness crap that they spend time on, I would love to see a half-day session on “How to Taser a Shooter”!


5 posted on 10/15/2007 4:33:51 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT
Why exactly is it that you think teachers should be denied a right the rest of us have?

(It's true that right now many of us are also being denied that right ... but it's my belief that I'll live to see the end of that)

6 posted on 10/15/2007 4:38:43 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT

Its an idea but I’m dead serious that we should stop sitting around and waiting for the next disaster.

Schools in my area are beginning to put police officers in but only one here or there, usually in the high schools.

They often sit in security camera monitoring rooms so if someone starts shooting its already too late to prevent people from being hit.

Get some more weapons “on the ground” and in the hands of teachers who know how to use them properly.

Even the maintenance and custodial staffs in many schools have experienced shooters-hunters who could handle guns the right way.

We need to be ready for the crazies and the next 9/11, which could come to a school.


7 posted on 10/15/2007 4:42:42 AM PDT by Nextrush (Proudly uncommitted in the 2008 race for president for now)
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To: tcostell
Since our children have no value—we have no reason to protect them from attack.

Also, firearms—especially the revolver—are safe and ridiculously easy to shoot. Any ‘training’ should be in the myriad and crazy laws involved in self-defense.

8 posted on 10/15/2007 4:50:37 AM PDT by Flintlock (-)
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To: tcostell; SoftballMominVA; Amelia; leda

To quote Robert Heinlen:

“An armed society is a polite society”

And, not all teachers would have to carry guns all the time. If no one knows, who is going to be foolish enough to find out?


9 posted on 10/15/2007 4:53:54 AM PDT by shag377 (De gustibus non disputandum est)
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To: Flintlock

I get that it’s sarcasm, but your comments still confuse me a little.


10 posted on 10/15/2007 4:54:54 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT

taser? when somebody’s shooting at you to kill, you don’t have time for a taser to take effect. nor do you have the ability to get within range.

when it’s you or them, you want THEM down and fast. a couple fo seconds to get a taser jolt means bye bye.


11 posted on 10/15/2007 4:59:54 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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I wonder how many teachers actually carried or were allowed to carry before the federal ban under Clinton

What did the "federal ban" under clinton have to do with CCW? Other than the capacity of the mags.

12 posted on 10/15/2007 5:10:35 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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What did the "federal ban" under clinton have to do with CCW? Other than the capacity of the mags.

The "federal ban" under Clinton - otherwise known as the Gun Free Zones Act of 1996 - made it a federal felony to have/possess/carry a firearm within 1,000 feet of a public school.

Very thin exceptions were made for CCW holders, but that was not my point and I don't know why you brought it up.

13 posted on 10/15/2007 5:43:24 AM PDT by angkor ("Hyeah right. The man who singlehandedly killed ManBearPig is a loser." Al Gore, South Park 10.06)
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To: tcostell

What are they going to do, shoot the attacker? I get a big picture of this.


14 posted on 10/15/2007 5:44:18 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: tcostell

“Why exactly is it that you think teachers should be denied a right the rest of us have?”

LOL! Yes, we all have the right to pack in government buildings. You betcha! Those metal detectors I used to walk through at work were to make sure I didn’t leave my keys in my truck.


15 posted on 10/15/2007 5:50:38 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: tcostell
At my kids’ junior high all the students are assigned hiding places. They regularly practice huddling in closets.
16 posted on 10/15/2007 6:04:26 AM PDT by DManA
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To: L98Fiero
Yes, we all have the right to pack in government buildings.

We do in Virginia, with the exception of courthouses.

17 posted on 10/15/2007 6:05:16 AM PDT by angkor ("Hyeah right. The man who singlehandedly killed ManBearPig is a loser." Al Gore, South Park 10.06)
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To: angkor

Wow. That’s alright.


18 posted on 10/15/2007 6:10:29 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: angkor
but that was not my point and I don't know why you brought it up.

I brought it up for that very reason....I didn't know WHAT your point was. Sheesh, I guess people can't ask questions any more.

19 posted on 10/15/2007 6:12:24 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: L98Fiero
There is an unusually high number of red herrings being tossed about on this thread considering how often we discuss issues like this.

It almost feels like a different forum.

20 posted on 10/15/2007 6:14:47 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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