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'Black people are less intelligent than whites', claims DNA pioneer (James Watson)
Daily Mail ^ | 10/17/07

Posted on 10/17/2007 1:36:52 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

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To: cowboyway
What field is AlGore an expert in?

Whenever you see the word "expert", think professional BS'er.

121 posted on 10/17/2007 5:19:55 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (DC scandals. Republicans address them, Democrats reelect them. (Tom De Lay 8/30/07))
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To: Caramelgal

What you said!! bttt


122 posted on 10/17/2007 5:20:52 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Mrs. Clinton reminds every happily re-married guy of his first wife." ~ Rush paraphrased.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Many of the posters here probably don't realize that Africa was on par with Europe, especially northern Europe, until relatively recently.

Details, please.

123 posted on 10/17/2007 5:21:55 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: hershey
He was speaking with Africa’s native population in mind. Unfortunately that continent could use a human genome boost.

The African Blacks are of far lower IQ than American Blacks. Some of the SubSaharan countries have an average IQ of 70.

IQ and Wealth of Nations -- Table of Average IQs

124 posted on 10/17/2007 5:22:11 AM PDT by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

You have embarrassed yourself and do not have the intelligence to know it, Mr. Nobel Prize Winner James Watson. Do a bit of research and reading on these men - just for a beginning, because the list is long.

125 posted on 10/17/2007 5:22:13 AM PDT by LucyJo
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To: joseph20
Where did you get that graph? It's not really from The Bell Curve, is it? It would seem to place the bulk of the black population among the near-retarded, which is not plausible. The shape of the graph for whites is also not correct.
126 posted on 10/17/2007 5:24:24 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: newgeezer

ping


127 posted on 10/17/2007 5:24:53 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (John 2:4 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

They may be less intelligent, but they are just as smart.


128 posted on 10/17/2007 5:28:38 AM PDT by Broker (Mabuhay!)
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To: racnpartsales4u
I don’t know about that. He doesn’t appear to be very critical about food.
129 posted on 10/17/2007 5:29:43 AM PDT by Durus ("Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." JFK)
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To: atomic conspiracy
I smell a lawsuit coming from certain employees/applicants of the Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory.

Maybe not. I posted this on previous threads regarding GW hysterics. It's interesting that Crichton discusses uncritical scientists with respect to eugenics. The Cold Springs Harbor Institute, according to Crichton, was started to propagate the study of eugenics. Mayhaps the good professor is a throwback.

130 posted on 10/17/2007 5:34:07 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: TigerLikesRooster
".."there is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples ..."

"Reason is not Intelligence in itself, only an instrument of intelligence. Few things create more mischief than reason in the hands of an unintelligent or immoral wonker. .."

131 posted on 10/17/2007 5:34:31 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Mrs. Clinton reminds every happily re-married guy of his first wife." ~ Rush paraphrased.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
I would rather be stuck in the Outback with an illiterate Aborigine than with a Doctor of Philosophy from Finland. Something tells me I’d eat more often and stay alive longer with the former than with the latter.

Agreed; this is true of a lot of useless 'intelligent' people.
132 posted on 10/17/2007 5:34:39 AM PDT by Amalie (FREEDOM had NEVER been another word for nothing left to lose...)
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To: wideminded

Where did you get that graph? It’s not really from The Bell Curve, is it? ............... Stormfront???


133 posted on 10/17/2007 5:34:50 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Staying home or voting 3rd Party, Elects Hillary!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
The mistake everyone keeps making on this thread is to turn Watson's statement about two groups into a statement about individuals.

Of course it makes Watson's statement look nonsensical. Statistics always break down when you do that.

It's easy to see that Condoleeza Rice is smarter than, say, Richard Simmons. That doesn't make Watson's statement false.

134 posted on 10/17/2007 5:39:43 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Solitar
I'm not going to endorse Watson's view on the matter.

But I will say that all the posters who seem to take the position that blacks, as a broad demographic group, must be statistically equal to whites in the area of intelligence because Thomas Sowell (or Clarence Thomas, or Walter Williams, or ...) is really smart seem to miss the overall point.

I don't say that Watson is right. But these sorts of counter-arguments strike me as something along the lines of "Some of my best friends are black".

A better counter-argument would be a statistical study of IQ by country in which African countries could be compared with non-African countries. Post #124 provides a counter-argument along these lines. I can't vouch for it's accuracy, but it's a darn sight better than "Condoleeza Rice is smart, therefore everyone in Africa is smart."

135 posted on 10/17/2007 5:40:04 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: wideminded
It would seem to place the bulk of the black population among the near-retarded, which is not plausible.

Look at the statistics almost anywhere for IQ by racial group. It doesn't matter whether you think IQ is hereditary or environmentally determined, the simple observed fact is that the mean IQ for 'blacks' (whatever that really means) is around 85 - a full standard deviation below that of 'whites' (whatever that means). You might argue the test are biased, and they may be. But, what the statistics suggest is that the mean IQ for the 'black' population is 'low normal'. Very ugly and uncomfortable.

Explicit disclaimer: group mean IQ says absolutely nothing about the IQ of any INDIVIDUAL member of that group. I have known exceptionally bright blacks and exceptionally stupid whites, Jews, Japanese and Chinese. Judge NO individual on the basis of group characteristics - give everyone the chance to save you from making a fool of yourself.

136 posted on 10/17/2007 5:40:48 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Parthiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit))
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To: TigerLikesRooster
See what evolution is reallllly all about....
137 posted on 10/17/2007 5:41:54 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Lancey Howard

“This guy, naturally, defines “intelligence” from an entirely white Eurocentric white, and he’s apparently not smart enough to realize that different peoples develop differnt kinds of “intelligence.”

You are joking with the above statement I hope.
That is the wacky thinking behind all the attempts to dumb down much of k -12 education as well as university course ok. And testing for employment, etc....
Facts are facts, truth is truth. There are no “different types” of intelligence. Math and science is math and science.


138 posted on 10/17/2007 5:43:52 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Sometimes the first duty of intelligent men is the restatement of the obvious. Orwell)
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To: cowboyway
"What field is AlGore an expert in?"

Judge Burton: "I turn to [An Inconvenient Truth] the film. The following is clear:

"... science is used, in the hands of a talented politician and communicator, to make a political statement and to support a political programme. ..."

... the Defendant, does not challenge that the film promotes political views. ................."

England and Wales High Court (Administrative Court) Decisions Case No: CO/3615/2007 Hearing dates: 27, 28 September, 1, 2 October 2007 Before: MR JUSTICE BURTON

139 posted on 10/17/2007 5:46:58 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Mrs. Clinton reminds every happily re-married guy of his first wife." ~ Rush paraphrased.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
When I listen to professor Alan Keyes I come away feeling in awe of his intellect.

To say blacks are less intelligent is just stupid in itself.

140 posted on 10/17/2007 5:47:25 AM PDT by servantboy777
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