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Patriot or Vigilante?
Tech Central Station ^ | 17 Oct 2007 | Robert Haddick

Posted on 10/17/2007 7:18:06 PM PDT by Lorianne

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1 posted on 10/17/2007 7:18:07 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
Maybe Robert Heinlein was on th something.
2 posted on 10/17/2007 7:26:04 PM PDT by 359Henrie (38 million illegals create a big carbon footprint. The real inconvenient truth.)
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To: Lorianne

I thought it has been established that mishandling secret documents rates a fine and probation, the Sandy Berger precedent?


3 posted on 10/17/2007 7:27:15 PM PDT by Old North State
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To: Old North State

All these folks have to do is to become registered ‘rats and all will be forgiven.


4 posted on 10/17/2007 7:28:43 PM PDT by Paladin2 (We don't fix the problem, we fix the blame!)
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To: Lorianne

Should have “conspired” with the NY slimes, no way that gets prosecuted.

Perhaps these guys took their oath “all enemies, foreign and domestic” seriously.

We need more like them.


5 posted on 10/17/2007 7:29:47 PM PDT by prov1813man (While the one you despise and ridicule works to protect you, those you embrace work to destroy you)
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To: Lorianne

save


6 posted on 10/17/2007 7:30:42 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Lorianne

Adapt and overcome.


7 posted on 10/17/2007 7:35:35 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: Lorianne

Bump.


8 posted on 10/17/2007 7:35:42 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: Lorianne

What about the Sandy Burgler precedent for “punishment”?


9 posted on 10/17/2007 7:36:08 PM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: Lorianne
"Patriot or Vigilante?"

I say BOTH.

And in this case it's the perfect combination.

10 posted on 10/17/2007 7:36:38 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Lorianne

There mistake was in violating the rules of the system to augment the system. Were they properly vigilantes, they would have taken the entire process into their own hands.

That is, having obtained information about al-Qaeda personnel operating in the United States, essentially verification that they were indeed al-Qaeda and planning to commit criminal acts and possibly even terrorism, they should have remained outside of the system to “close the deal”. Most likely resulting in the demise of the al-Qaeda, in an unremarkable manner.

This would only happen if one had been identified, with enough evidence so that their guilt was unmistakable, and that they and their cohorts were neither continuing to produce intelligence information of value, nor were they going to be interfered with by the authorities.

In other words, the government had solid proof that they were al-Qaeda, had committed or were going to commit acts against the US, were no longer of intelligence gathering value, quite possibly may be planning to carry out attacks, *and* still, the government had no intention of stopping them.

At that point, intervention is justified by vigilantes.


11 posted on 10/17/2007 7:43:33 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: Lorianne

So again the military types will sufer while the politicians skate free.Mind blowing to say the least.


12 posted on 10/17/2007 8:21:37 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: imahawk

Suffer


13 posted on 10/17/2007 8:23:06 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: Old North State

I thought so too. Guess it depends ....


14 posted on 10/17/2007 8:30:14 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: archy; Squantos

INteresting.


15 posted on 10/17/2007 8:49:41 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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“One possibility is that the conspirators all suffer from hyperactive imaginations. Reinforced by a group-think process that swirled out of control, they might have dreamed up an al Qaeda threat inside U.S. territory that the rest of the nation’s law enforcement community just didn’t see.”

Yea, that’s always a possibility. Like the FBI agent who was running around saying terrorists were gonna fly planes into big buildings. What a nut.


16 posted on 10/17/2007 8:52:44 PM PDT by TalBlack
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To: Lorianne

The Declaration of Independence itself says that when government gets out of line, we have a right to step up and change what is happening.

But our government doesnt like competition or challenges. Just like King George.


17 posted on 10/18/2007 4:34:31 AM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: Travis McGee

to read later


18 posted on 10/18/2007 4:45:47 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: Lorianne

From what has been given—these Patriots are Both Patriot and vigilant. I could not punish them for use of the material at hand —to do what our government ought be doing—but seems to not be doing. Perhaps they had encouragement (black ops?) IMO the deciding factor would
be did they remove any of the bad guys.did they decrease
the threat?


19 posted on 10/18/2007 4:53:22 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Guenevere

AM bttt


20 posted on 10/18/2007 5:08:15 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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