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Israel Warns World War III May be Biblical War of Gog and Magog
Arutz Sheva ^ | 6 Cheshvan 5768, October 18, '07 | by Ezra HaLevi

Posted on 10/18/2007 12:55:01 PM PDT by F15Eagle

(IsraelNN.com) US President George W. Bush said a nuclear Iran would mean World War III. Israeli newscasts featured Gog & Magog maps of the likely alignment of nations in that potential conflict.

Channel 2 and Channel 10 TV showed the world map, sketching the basic alignment of the two opposing axes in a coming world war, in a manner evoking associations of the Gog and Magog prophecy for many viewers. The prophecy of Gog and Magog refers to a great world war centered on the Holy Land and Jerusalem and first appears in the book of Yechezkel (Ezekiel).

On one side were Israel, the United States, Britain, France and Germany. On the other were Iran, Russia, China, Syria and North Korea.

US President Bush said Wednesday during a press conference that Iran attaining nuclear weapons raises the risk of "World War III."

"If Iran had a nuclear weapon, it'd be a dangerous threat to world peace," Bush said. "So I told people that if you're interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like you ought to be interested [in preventing a nuclear Iran]…I take the threat of Iran with a nuclear weapon very seriously.”

Russian President Vladimir Putin visited Iran Tuesday and slammed the US’s refusal to rule out the use of force against Iran’s nuclear project. "Not only should we reject the use of force, but also the mention of force as a possibility," he said.

Russia has blocked tougher UN sanctions in the UN Security Council, where it has veto power. The Russian president asserts that there is no evidence Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons rather than a peaceful nuclear power program.

Israel’s Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni called for a new Security Council resolution against Iran at a press conference following her meeting with US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice Wednesday. "I do believe there is a need for another Security Council resolution,” she told reporters. “In the past, the need to get everybody on board - including Russia and China - led to some compromises on the nature of the sanctions. I hope this will not be the case this time."

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert announced Wednesday a sudden trip to Moscow Thursday morning, where he will meet with Putin about Iran. Other topics of discussion will reportedly be Russia’s continued supply of weapons to Syria, which have then made their way into the hands of various terrorist groups based there as well.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bible; christian; ezekiel38; gog; gogmagog; gomer; holyland; iran; israel; magog; prophecy; russia; surprisex3; wwiii
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1 posted on 10/18/2007 12:55:06 PM PDT by F15Eagle
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2 posted on 10/18/2007 12:57:24 PM PDT by evets (Do you come to take a spoil?)
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To: 444Flyer; Salem; Alouette; dennisw; Yehuda; Cindy; Travis McGee; blam; XeniaSt; SJackson; ...

fyi


3 posted on 10/18/2007 12:57:43 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: F15Eagle

On one side were Israel, the United States, Britain, France and Germany. On the other were Iran, Russia, China, Syria and North Korea.

So, are we gog or magog?


4 posted on 10/18/2007 12:58:19 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Thinkin' Gal

oh fyi ...


5 posted on 10/18/2007 12:58:57 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: F15Eagle

Bump for later.


6 posted on 10/18/2007 1:01:23 PM PDT by JSteff (Reality= realizing you are not nearly important enough for the government to tap your phone.)
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To: edcoil

lol


7 posted on 10/18/2007 1:01:25 PM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: F15Eagle
Found this:


8 posted on 10/18/2007 1:01:27 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Take the wheel, Fred.)
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To: edcoil

I’m assuming you didn’t leave off a sarcasm tag - :)

Gog is OF the land of Magog

Ezekiel Chapter 38 KJV

1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:
4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:
5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.
7 Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.


9 posted on 10/18/2007 1:02:12 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: edcoil
So, are we gog or magog?

Looks like we're Gog:


10 posted on 10/18/2007 1:04:39 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (The Democrat Party: radical Islam's last hope)
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To: edcoil
So, are we gog or magog?

Neither. We are "those that dwell safely in the coastlands..."

11 posted on 10/18/2007 1:04:56 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: F15Eagle
"6 Gomer, and all his bands..."

Gomer?

Surprise, Surprise.
12 posted on 10/18/2007 1:05:24 PM PDT by chrisser
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To: F15Eagle

bttt


13 posted on 10/18/2007 1:06:06 PM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: F15Eagle

Thanks.


14 posted on 10/18/2007 1:06:26 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: F15Eagle

That would be my guess...Ezekiel 38 & 39, at last.


15 posted on 10/18/2007 1:06:53 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: F15Eagle
"I will pour down torrents of rain,
hailstones, and burning sulfur
on his troops and on the many nations with him."
(Ezekiel 38:22)

16 posted on 10/18/2007 1:07:19 PM PDT by evets (Do you come to take a spoil?)
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To: F15Eagle

It IS the War of Gog and Magog. At no other point in history has mankind attained the power of total self-annihilation. This is one of the signs. God knows mankind’s capabilities... The fallen angels dispersed knowledge of things we were not supposed to know about until eons had passed. This is the end result. God knows knowledge in a young mind can prove destructive. In the Garden of Eden we chose to disobey, and eat of the Tree of Knowledge. He kept man from eating of the Tree of Life to prevent Universe-shattering destruction. We only have to look at ourselves. Sure we have made marvelous advancements.. We have become efficient at exterminating our kind.


17 posted on 10/18/2007 1:07:25 PM PDT by Ancient Drive
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To: papertyger

We are ‘the young lion’.


18 posted on 10/18/2007 1:07:58 PM PDT by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: F15Eagle
And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords: 5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:

Nothing about nukes--planes--tanks ---subs etc etc ( or any mention of terrifying new weapons from the sky and sea etc etc )
19 posted on 10/18/2007 1:08:11 PM PDT by uncbob (m first)
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To: papertyger

Psalm 83. Isaaih 17:1. This “war” will effectively take care of Egypt & Syria (not mentioned in Ezekial), Hamas, etc. Then Israel will feel safe. Then Turkey & “friends” supported by Russia will attack unexpectidly. NO ONE will come to Israel’s defense. God will win this one!
(Above a simplified brief scenerio)


20 posted on 10/18/2007 1:10:10 PM PDT by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: uncbob

arrows... arrows tipped with the destructive power of the sun.


21 posted on 10/18/2007 1:10:18 PM PDT by Ancient Drive
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To: uncbob

Don’t underestimate those bucklers.


22 posted on 10/18/2007 1:10:29 PM PDT by chrisser
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To: COBOL2Java

“Gog is OF the land of Magog”

But the map shows GOG is going there.


23 posted on 10/18/2007 1:10:48 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: edcoil

Magog is right over the Canada border and Lake Magog crosses into VT. So, I’m think that we’re Magog.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Magog,+QC,+Canada&sa=X&oi=map&ct=title


24 posted on 10/18/2007 1:11:35 PM PDT by wilco200
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To: F15Eagle

I recently had a “talk” with my younger brother (a flaming DU lib) who was blaming Israel for all the ill in the world. I finally said to him, Matthew if you think that Israel ought to not exist, say so. He did.

I said, “fine, then lets bring every single jew from Israel, and settle them here in the U.S. Somewhere that has a history of settling immigrants from the ME....I know, Lets give them Dearborn MI!”

He didn’t get the humor. Like I said, DUer.


25 posted on 10/18/2007 1:12:08 PM PDT by Grunthor (http://franz.org/quiz.htm)
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To: F15Eagle

I think this is all playing out more like the end of Ghostbusters, with Gog as the Keymaster, Magog as the Gatekeeper, and Israel as the Stay Puft Marshmellow Man.


26 posted on 10/18/2007 1:13:09 PM PDT by Texas Federalist (Fred!)
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To: uncbob
Nothing about nukes

Read about the "clean-up" in 39.

27 posted on 10/18/2007 1:13:27 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: edcoil

And all this time I thought Gog was Walmart, and Magog was Target...?


28 posted on 10/18/2007 1:13:37 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: txflake

‘the young lion’

Then there are the 7 responses to the seven thunders uttered by God....(Revelations)of which John was forbidden to write.

Another words, we don’t know how America fits in!


29 posted on 10/18/2007 1:14:06 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: MrLee

interesting...I haven’t heard that angle


30 posted on 10/18/2007 1:16:23 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: F15Eagle

good read, and Damascus will be gone too.

Ezekiel 38
A Prophecy Against Gog
1 The word of the LORD came to me: 2 “Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of [a] Meshech and Tubal; prophesy against him 3 and say: ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of [b] Meshech and Tubal. 4 I will turn you around, put hooks in your jaws and bring you out with your whole army—your horses, your horsemen fully armed, and a great horde with large and small shields, all of them brandishing their swords. 5 Persia, Cush [c] and Put will be with them, all with shields and helmets, 6 also Gomer with all its troops, and Beth Togarmah from the far north with all its troops—the many nations with you.

7 “ ‘Get ready; be prepared, you and all the hordes gathered about you, and take command of them. 8 After many days you will be called to arms. In future years you will invade a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate. They had been brought out from the nations, and now all of them live in safety. 9 You and all your troops and the many nations with you will go up, advancing like a storm; you will be like a cloud covering the land.

10 “ ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: On that day thoughts will come into your mind and you will devise an evil scheme. 11 You will say, “I will invade a land of unwalled villages; I will attack a peaceful and unsuspecting people—all of them living without walls and without gates and bars. 12 I will plunder and loot and turn my hand against the resettled ruins and the people gathered from the nations, rich in livestock and goods, living at the center of the land.” 13 Sheba and Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish and all her villages [d] will say to you, “Have you come to plunder? Have you gathered your hordes to loot, to carry off silver and gold, to take away livestock and goods and to seize much plunder?” ‘

14 “Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say to Gog: ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: In that day, when my people Israel are living in safety, will you not take notice of it? 15 You will come from your place in the far north, you and many nations with you, all of them riding on horses, a great horde, a mighty army. 16 You will advance against my people Israel like a cloud that covers the land. In days to come, O Gog, I will bring you against my land, so that the nations may know me when I show myself holy through you before their eyes.

17 “ ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Are you not the one I spoke of in former days by my servants the prophets of Israel? At that time they prophesied for years that I would bring you against them. 18 This is what will happen in that day: When Gog attacks the land of Israel, my hot anger will be aroused, declares the Sovereign LORD. 19 In my zeal and fiery wrath I declare that at that time there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel. 20 The fish of the sea, the birds of the air, the beasts of the field, every creature that moves along the ground, and all the people on the face of the earth will tremble at my presence. The mountains will be overturned, the cliffs will crumble and every wall will fall to the ground. 21 I will summon a sword against Gog on all my mountains, declares the Sovereign LORD. Every man’s sword will be against his brother. 22 I will execute judgment upon him with plague and bloodshed; I will pour down torrents of rain, hailstones and burning sulfur on him and on his troops and on the many nations with him. 23 And so I will show my greatness and my holiness, and I will make myself known in the sight of many nations. Then they will know that I am the LORD.’
Ezekiel 39

1 “Son of man, prophesy against Gog and say: ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of [e] Meshech and Tubal. 2 I will turn you around and drag you along. I will bring you from the far north and send you against the mountains of Israel. 3 Then I will strike your bow from your left hand and make your arrows drop from your right hand. 4 On the mountains of Israel you will fall, you and all your troops and the nations with you. I will give you as food to all kinds of carrion birds and to the wild animals. 5 You will fall in the open field, for I have spoken, declares the Sovereign LORD. 6 I will send fire on Magog and on those who live in safety in the coastlands, and they will know that I am the LORD.

7 “ ‘I will make known my holy name among my people Israel. I will no longer let my holy name be profaned, and the nations will know that I the LORD am the Holy One in Israel. 8 It is coming! It will surely take place, declares the Sovereign LORD. This is the day I have spoken of.

9 “ ‘Then those who live in the towns of Israel will go out and use the weapons for fuel and burn them up—the small and large shields, the bows and arrows, the war clubs and spears. For seven years they will use them for fuel. 10 They will not need to gather wood from the fields or cut it from the forests, because they will use the weapons for fuel. And they will plunder those who plundered them and loot those who looted them, declares the Sovereign LORD.

11 “ ‘On that day I will give Gog a burial place in Israel, in the valley of those who travel east toward [f] the Sea. [g] It will block the way of travelers, because Gog and all his hordes will be buried there. So it will be called the Valley of Hamon Gog. [h]

12 “ ‘For seven months the house of Israel will be burying them in order to cleanse the land. 13 All the people of the land will bury them, and the day I am glorified will be a memorable day for them, declares the Sovereign LORD.

14 “ ‘Men will be regularly employed to cleanse the land. Some will go throughout the land and, in addition to them, others will bury those that remain on the ground. At the end of the seven months they will begin their search. 15 As they go through the land and one of them sees a human bone, he will set up a marker beside it until the gravediggers have buried it in the Valley of Hamon Gog. 16 (Also a town called Hamonah [i] will be there.) And so they will cleanse the land.’

17 “Son of man, this is what the Sovereign LORD says: Call out to every kind of bird and all the wild animals: ‘Assemble and come together from all around to the sacrifice I am preparing for you, the great sacrifice on the mountains of Israel. There you will eat flesh and drink blood. 18 You will eat the flesh of mighty men and drink the blood of the princes of the earth as if they were rams and lambs, goats and bulls—all of them fattened animals from Bashan. 19 At the sacrifice I am preparing for you, you will eat fat till you are glutted and drink blood till you are drunk. 20 At my table you will eat your fill of horses and riders, mighty men and soldiers of every kind,’ declares the Sovereign LORD.

21 “I will display my glory among the nations, and all the nations will see the punishment I inflict and the hand I lay upon them. 22 From that day forward the house of Israel will know that I am the LORD their God. 23 And the nations will know that the people of Israel went into exile for their sin, because they were unfaithful to me. So I hid my face from them and handed them over to their enemies, and they all fell by the sword. 24 I dealt with them according to their uncleanness and their offenses, and I hid my face from them.

25 “Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: I will now bring Jacob back from captivity [j] and will have compassion on all the people of Israel, and I will be zealous for my holy name. 26 They will forget their shame and all the unfaithfulness they showed toward me when they lived in safety in their land with no one to make them afraid. 27 When I have brought them back from the nations and have gathered them from the countries of their enemies, I will show myself holy through them in the sight of many nations. 28 Then they will know that I am the LORD their God, for though I sent them into exile among the nations, I will gather them to their own land, not leaving any behind. 29 I will no longer hide my face from them, for I will pour out my Spirit on the house of Israel, declares the Sovereign LORD.”


31 posted on 10/18/2007 1:17:03 PM PDT by Ancient Drive
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To: edcoil
Sometimes I feel like Grog...


32 posted on 10/18/2007 1:17:20 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (The Democrat Party: radical Islam's last hope)
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To: Texas Federalist
Gog as the Keymaster, Magog as the Gatekeeper

Time to summon Goza and the Stay'puft Marshmallow Man to kick everybody's ass!

33 posted on 10/18/2007 1:19:36 PM PDT by AU72
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To: F15Eagle

All I know is Israel wins in the end.


34 posted on 10/18/2007 1:19:46 PM PDT by The South Texan (The Drive By Media is America's worst enemy and American people don't know it.)
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To: MrLee

You are wrong, America will come to Irael’s defense.


35 posted on 10/18/2007 1:21:46 PM PDT by Rumplemeyer
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To: F15Eagle

whimper
/s


36 posted on 10/18/2007 1:23:38 PM PDT by VxH (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, and Three if by Wire Transfer)
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To: Rumplemeyer
America will come to Irael’s defense

I'd like to think so, but I have my doubts if Hitlery or Osama is CIC when the time comes...
37 posted on 10/18/2007 1:23:44 PM PDT by chrisser
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To: AU72
Time to summon Goza and the Stay'puft Marshmallow Man to kick everybody's ass!


38 posted on 10/18/2007 1:25:43 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (The Democrat Party: radical Islam's last hope)
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To: F15Eagle
I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:

One thing is for sure, if it happens its going to be a pretty low tech war.

39 posted on 10/18/2007 1:27:36 PM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Rumplemeyer

“You are wrong, America will come to Irael’s defense.”

And, please show me where in His word we are told that?


40 posted on 10/18/2007 1:29:50 PM PDT by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: F15Eagle
On one side were Israel, the United States, Britain, France and Germany. On the other were Iran, Russia, China, Syria and North Korea.

Haha notice who is missing... Saddam Hussein. :)

It’s about time we get some decent targets again because this thing ain't over by a long shot.

41 posted on 10/18/2007 1:34:15 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: edcoil
So, are we gog or magog?

Neither.. we're eggnog.

42 posted on 10/18/2007 1:36:02 PM PDT by mtg
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To: uncbob

Of course, the Hebrew that Ezekiel 38 and 39 were written in would not have had equivalent words for nuclear, tank or sub.

And those two chapters say the war is for the Latter Days and the Latter Years AFTER Israel is brought back to the land.

For references that might indicate nuclear weapons and/or other WMD’s, these passages are more explicit, though no exact mention is given:

Zechariah 14:12
Matthew 24:21-22
2nd Peter 3:10


43 posted on 10/18/2007 1:37:44 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: F15Eagle
Has anybody read The Ezekial Option?
44 posted on 10/18/2007 1:39:52 PM PDT by carolinablonde (Proud member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy)
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To: Realism
Don't you see, "horses" and "armor" are tanks, and "swords" are battle rifles and possibly shoulder-lanched SAMs. It's pretty clear. /sarc

Oh yeah, and "lightning bolts" are ICBMs.

45 posted on 10/18/2007 1:41:28 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo (My other Telecaster is a Thinline)
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To: chrisser

“Gomer, and all his bands”

I sure hope Andy’s teacher friend Helen Crump is on our side.
She was a real ba**-buster!


46 posted on 10/18/2007 1:41:59 PM PDT by tumblindice
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To: edcoil

Agog; adv. [ME agogge, OFr., en gogue, in merriment.] In a state of excitement and keen anticipation.


47 posted on 10/18/2007 1:43:28 PM PDT by Clioman
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To: Ancient Drive
14 “ ‘Men will be regularly employed to cleanse the land. Some will go throughout the land and, in addition to them, others will bury those that remain on the ground. At the end of the seven months they will begin their search. 15 As they go through the land and one of them sees a human bone, he will set up a marker beside it until the gravediggers have buried it in the Valley of Hamon Gog. 16 (Also a town called Hamonah [i] will be there.) And so they will cleanse the land.’

Sounds eerily like a massive NBC cleanup site. Indeed a lot of the seals are being revealed recently.

48 posted on 10/18/2007 1:44:02 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Hey Jessie, how much melanin do you have to have to form a socially acceptable lynch mob?)
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To: Ancient Drive

“good read, and Damascus will be gone too.”

I have a theory regarding Damascus. Poetic justice would be the first nuke fired by Imanutjob would “go astray” and BINGO that’s all she wrote!


49 posted on 10/18/2007 1:46:39 PM PDT by 444Flyer (Betrothed to The King)
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To: MrLee
Interpreting Biblical prophecy is never a sure thing, and tying prophecy to modern nations is even more painful.

Is America mentioned? Is America allied with Magog? Is America seen as part of Israel? Is America assumed to be gone already when this happens? Is America the instrument of God's vengeance on the nations that attack Israel?

I have found websites that make all of those claims, and I am sure there are plenty of others.

I think being around for Armageddon and the aftermath would be both a terrible and wonderous thing, no matter how you interpret the prophesies.

50 posted on 10/18/2007 1:47:22 PM PDT by AzSteven ("War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." Jean Dutourd)
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