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To: Kevmo
This is fascinating, and I have to say that I’ve proceeded further in this discussion than I ever have with any other mormon, ever. (and on and on ad infinitum.)


Kevmo, this is so much garbage. It is garbage for two reasons:
First it is garbage, because it has so many errors and distortions in it, one doesn’t know where to begin to put it right. And why should one bother. I am inclined to say go your ignorant, bigoted, self-righteous way.
Second, It is garbage because it is so out of place. The FR list is trying to discuss the coming election and is not the place for you to air your bigotry.
On this list I have read that Mormons claim that God thinks the Creeds are an abomination to him. I agree with that notion, because they lead to nonsense like this. Creeds may be good to help individuals clarify what they believe. However, when they become a platform for attacking others or denying others their rights, I too say they are an abomination. When they become the basis for hating and smearing others, I say they are an abomination.

Again I say that you seem to miss what America and the Constitution is all about. Do you not know there is no religious test for the presidency. Do you understand why???Think hard, and it may come to you.

I suggest you find another platform for spreading this garbage.

60 posted on 10/19/2007 12:20:00 AM PDT by broncobilly
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To: broncobilly
Sir, what Kevmo stated is in point of fact the truth as to what Mormonism believes and teaches. I, along with others who have mentioned these facts concerning Mormonism are telling the truth about the CULT in order to educate the public at large. Whether people wish to acknowledge it or not, the fact of the matter is this: what one believes and follows has a direct bearing and impact upon how they live their lives and how they view the world and their place in it and in the case of politicians, …how they govern (The "president" of Iran is a good example of the reality behind this principle).

Mr. Romney's Mormonism is a valid point of discussion because in order to obtain the high position Mr. Romney currently holds within the cult he has had to take an oath to the “church”; swearing his allegiance to Mormonism and it’s leadership and to doing everything within his power to establish the Mormon “kingdom of god” upon the earth. Mr. Romney also believes he is going to become the god of his own world! The above facts alone disqualify him from holding the office of President of the United States because his allegiance AND motives lies elsewhere.

Stating what Mormonism teaches, believes and practices is not “Mormon bashing", it is presenting reality. The facts stated above about the cult which Mr. Romney is so actively involved in are readily available and easily verified by anyone and everyone who is willing to take the time to do some simple apologetics research with an open mind, taking Mormonism at face value, examining it's founders, leaders, doctrines, beliefs and practices in light of history, the Word of God and the founder (The Lord Jesus Christ), leaders, doctrine and beliefs of biblical Christianity and "the faith once and for all delivered to the saints."

61 posted on 10/19/2007 3:45:45 AM PDT by Jmouse007
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To: broncobilly
First it is garbage, because it has so many errors and distortions in it, one doesn’t know where to begin to put it right. ***Well, like I said, I would begin with the church I go to. I posted some links for Peninsula Bible Church and what the pastors have had to say about mormonism. Ray Stedman was a pretty well respected evangelist when he was alive. And why should one bother. I am inclined to say go your ignorant, bigoted, self-righteous way. ***Ignorant: I did not ignore the evidence. Bigot: I tolerate the different mormon viewpoint, and at the same time I find it a useful exercise in inductive reasoning as well as peering into heresy. From Dictionary.com big·ot /ˈbɪgət/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[big-uht] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Origin: 1590–1600; < MF (OF: derogatory name applied by the French to the Normans), perh. < OE bī God by God] Second, It is garbage because it is so out of place. The FR list is trying to discuss the coming election and is not the place for you to air your bigotry. ***The title of this thread is "Why evangelicals should support Mitt Romney". I'm an evangelical christian believer. We are well within the topic and what the author of this article led with. If anything is out of place it would be insults such as your accusation of bigotry. On this list I have read that Mormons claim that God thinks the Creeds are an abomination to him. I agree with that notion, because they lead to nonsense like this. Creeds may be good to help individuals clarify what they believe. However, when they become a platform for attacking others or denying others their rights, I too say they are an abomination. When they become the basis for hating and smearing others, I say they are an abomination. ***You have a lot to say about creeds. Notice that I didn't even want to discuss the Nicene Creed, and that's about the only time the word "creed" came up with me on this thread. Again I say that you seem to miss what America and the Constitution is all about. ***Now that kinda talk will really get my panties in a wad. Pipe down, bronco. Do you not know there is no religious test for the presidency. Do you understand why???Think hard, and it may come to you. ***Um, because it's a bad thing. But I can vote for whomever I choose, for whatever reason I choose, and if some apostate author tries to tell me that I should be supporting a heretic who's running for president, I'm FREE to speak my mind about such things in this wonderful country. I suggest you find another platform for spreading this garbage. ***You mean I have to find another thread that suggests evangelicals should support some other heretic? Or are you suggesting that I leave Free Republic to post facts about a heretical religion and the candidate who supports it? I see that this conversation is spiraling out to nowhere, so before we go off into the weeds, one thing I would ask of Mitt supporters is: What would they have evangelicals pray for when it comes to this candidate, considering that many of us think it's a heretical belief system?
68 posted on 10/19/2007 9:26:10 AM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq— via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.))
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To: broncobilly
There must have been some kind of embedded HTML tag in my response. Here are some better paragraphs, hopefully.

First it is garbage, because it has so many errors and distortions in it, one doesn’t know where to begin to put it right.
***Well, like I said, I would begin with the church I go to. I posted some links for Peninsula Bible Church and what the pastors have had to say about mormonism. Ray Stedman was a pretty well respected evangelist when he was alive.

And why should one bother. I am inclined to say go your ignorant, bigoted, self-righteous way.
***Ignorant: I did not ignore the evidence.
Bigot: I tolerate the different mormon viewpoint, and at the same time I find it a useful exercise in inductive reasoning as well as peering into heresy.
From Dictionary.com big·ot /ˈbɪgət/
Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[big-uht]
Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.
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[Origin: 1590–1600; < MF (OF: derogatory name applied by the French to the Normans), perh. < OE bī God by God]
Self-righteous: You're way off here. My righteousness would only come as a result of accepting Jesus as my Lord and Savior. It is imputed, not self-attained.

Second, It is garbage because it is so out of place. The FR list is trying to discuss the coming election and is not the place for you to air your bigotry.
***The title of this thread is "Why evangelicals should support Mitt Romney". I'm an evangelical christian believer. We are well within the topic and what the author of this article led with. If anything is out of place it would be insults such as your accusation of bigotry.

On this list I have read that Mormons claim that God thinks the Creeds are an abomination to him. I agree with that notion, because they lead to nonsense like this. Creeds may be good to help individuals clarify what they believe. However, when they become a platform for attacking others or denying others their rights, I too say they are an abomination. When they become the basis for hating and smearing others, I say they are an abomination.
***You have a lot to say about creeds. Notice that I didn't even want to discuss the Nicene Creed, and that's about the only time the word "creed" came up with me on this thread.

Again I say that you seem to miss what America and the Constitution is all about.
***Now that kinda talk will really get my panties in a wad. Pipe down, bronco.

Do you not know there is no religious test for the presidency. Do you understand why???Think hard, and it may come to you.
***Um, because it's a bad thing. But I can VOTE for whomever I choose, for whatever reason I choose, and if some apostate author tries to tell me that I should be supporting a heretic who's running for president, I'm FREE to speak my mind about such things in this wonderful country.

I suggest you find another platform for spreading this garbage.
***You mean I have to find another thread that suggests evangelicals should support some other heretic? Or are you suggesting that I leave Free Republic to post facts about a heretical religion and the candidate who supports it?


I see that this conversation is spiraling out to nowhere, so before we go off into the weeds, one thing I would ask of Mitt supporters is: What would they have evangelicals pray for when it comes to this candidate, considering that many of us think it's a heretical belief system?
71 posted on 10/19/2007 9:46:19 AM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.))
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To: broncobilly
"When they become the basis for hating and smearing others, I say they are an abomination."

In my Bible Jesus specifically says he hates false doctrine and that we should also.

90 posted on 10/23/2007 9:52:23 AM PDT by joebuck
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