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Philly punishes Scouts over 'gay' issue
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | October 20, 2007

Posted on 10/20/2007 3:55:36 AM PDT by Man50D

Prompted by opposition to the Boy Scouts' rule disqualifying homosexuals as troop leaders, Philadelphia has forced the city's local chapter to pay fair-market rent of $200,000 a year for its city-owned headquarters.

As WND reported in June, Philadelphia's city council voted to renege on a 1928 ordinance allowing the Cradle of Liberty Council to have its headquarters in a building on a parcel of public land "in perpetuity" for $1 a year.

The city argues it can't rent public property for a nominal sum to any group that discriminates.

City officials in San Francisco and Boston have made similar decisions displacing the Scouts because of the group's behavior code.

Fairmount Park Commission president Robert N.C. Nix announced this week the Cradle of Liberty Council must pay the $200,000 rent if it wants to remain in the building after May 31.

Jeff Jubelirer, spokesman for the Cradle of Liberty Council, told the Associated Press the higher rent money "would have to come from programs. That's 30 new Cub Scout packs, or 800 needy kids going to our summer camp."

"It's disappointing, and it's certainly a threat," he said.

Homosexual organizations previously challenged the Scouts' policy, but lost at the U.S. Supreme Court level, where a 2000 ruling confirmed that as a private group, the Scouts could set restrictions for their leaders.

The activist groups then turned their sights on property arrangements such as in Philadelphia, where the Scouts had been using a parcel of public property, only with some maintenance costs, for years.

The Philadelphia Scouting council in 2003 said it would adopt a nondiscrimination policy on homosexuals, but reversed itself within weeks and then dismissed an 18-year-old who publicly announced his homosexuality during that time period.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; bsa; bsalist; homosexualagenda; philadelphia; scouts

1 posted on 10/20/2007 3:55:37 AM PDT by Man50D
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To: Man50D

What they really mean is someone that is not a communist or socialist.


2 posted on 10/20/2007 4:05:59 AM PDT by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: Man50D
What would happen if the BSA closed the Council?

Would there be enough of a stink that the city would re-renege?

As a parent of a scout (and an ASM), I'd be real happy if my Council stood strong to protect our scouts from predators. Not every homosexual is a predator - I understand that: but there are more in that group than there are in mine. I want to reduce risk, not increase the risk of reading a headline.

3 posted on 10/20/2007 4:10:36 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: Man50D

Love it. Philly, the murder capital of the U.S., finally takes a stand, and it’s against the Boy Scouts.

Is it any wonder the city is violent and drug-riddled?


4 posted on 10/20/2007 4:17:31 AM PDT by fleagle ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. -Winston Churchill)
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To: Man50D

Considering the scouts built the building in the first place, and donated it to the city in exchange for this “in perpetuity” arrangement, I think they have a good chance in court to win against the city reneging on the agreement, which was made before any law or city policy stating they can’t make agreements with discriminating organizations.

In a sane court anyway...

Otherwise, the scouts should just blow it up upon leaving rather than allow that faggy city to screw them out of their own building.


5 posted on 10/20/2007 4:21:38 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

I doubt many people knew the scouts donated that building. I sure didn’t.


6 posted on 10/20/2007 4:59:56 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: Nathan Zachary

If the city reneged on the rent, the scouts should renege on the bldg donation to the city.

My comment is meant to be sarcastic, as it would send the wrong message to the scouts.

A deal made in good faith should be honored, something these elected officials either never learned or are ignoring.


7 posted on 10/20/2007 5:03:24 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: Man50D
Michael Smerconish reported on the radio station WPHT (1210 AM) that those responsible for this in Philly are "out of the closet gays." He added to his comment with "Not that there is anything wrong with that."

I disagree. These people are disgusting, power mad, out of control perverts who are using their positions to punish a wonderful organization (the Boy Scouts of America).

My alma mater, Syracuse University, did the same thing several years ago.

It stopped allowing the Boy Scouts to use the Carrier Dome because of the organizations "homophobia."

Every time SU calls me for money, you can guess what my response is.

This is who the left idolizes:

And this is who they punish and hate:


8 posted on 10/20/2007 5:09:39 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: fleagle

The city is too busy going after smokers, boy scouts, restaurants that sell trans fats and steak shops that have “please speak English”.


9 posted on 10/20/2007 5:14:52 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Aztlan My Azz: La Raza is Spanish for Tan Klan)
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To: Man50D

A new definition of “in perpetuity”: “Until we change our mind”


10 posted on 10/20/2007 5:23:36 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Man50D
City of brotherly love not really. The Boy Scouts have done much in many different areas and this is what they get for their effort. Shame on you.
11 posted on 10/20/2007 5:46:01 AM PDT by mountainlyons (Hard core conservative)
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To: kinsman redeemer
Not every homosexual is a predator

No but every homosexual is a homosexual. Why would I want my son involved in a program to help him become a better man if its ran by gay leaders that don't even know what being a real man is? Sorry not all of them are pedaphiles, but all of them are mentally not there in terms of their sexuality.

12 posted on 10/20/2007 6:01:36 AM PDT by Bommer (“He that controls the spice controls the universe!” (unfortunately that spice is Nutmeg!))
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To: Man50D

Philadelphia is a folking idiot. Homosexuals with boy scouts is not a good idea. duh.


13 posted on 10/20/2007 6:08:27 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Man50D

Why are so many politicians promoting the sodomy of young boys. They are not just stupid, they are perverts and take pleasure when young boys are made into perverts. This is the goal of the leftist godless athiests of America.


14 posted on 10/20/2007 6:12:06 AM PDT by kindred (I am voting conservatives like Hunter,or Third Party. No vote for Rudy or other rinos.)
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To: robertpaulsen
A new definition of “in perpetuity”: “Until we change our mind”

Depends. If the Scouts have something in writing from the city saying that Philadelphia agreed to the lease and the terms then they have a case to take the city to court, and probably win. If they have nothing in writing but have instead relied on a verbal agreement then they're hosed.

15 posted on 10/20/2007 6:16:04 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Nailbiter

It’s difficult when one group, dedicated to honor and positive American values, trys to make deals with another group that has no honor nor values.


16 posted on 10/20/2007 6:20:50 AM PDT by live+let_live
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To: Nathan Zachary

I did read some place yesterday that the Scouts actually gave the building to the city, but the MSM stories all leave out that tid-bit. I wonder why?


17 posted on 10/20/2007 7:01:26 AM PDT by elpadre
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ...

ping


18 posted on 10/20/2007 7:03:36 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Dems want to rob from the poor to give to the rich)
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To: Man50D

For Democrats it’s always about the children and the poor until one of their pet fringe groups is unhappy.


19 posted on 10/20/2007 7:08:18 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: Tribune7
Why do you think they call it "The City of Brotherly Love"? Except for going there when called to work, there's nothing I'm willing to spend my money on -- and allow them the tax monies appended thereto. The Democratic Nationalsocialist Committee and their minions are ruining Philly and all of the other large cities in our nation. Just another brick on the road to the Third Civil War. (I wonder if it will start there as did the first one?)       '^(
20 posted on 10/20/2007 8:15:14 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank

It’s looking pretty bad. I went to the King Tut exhibit at the Franklin Institute. I came out and found bums sleeping on every bench on the Parkway. I got hit by I don’t know how many panhandlers. I saw what looked like some sort of gypsy camp next to a police station.


21 posted on 10/20/2007 8:36:56 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Dems want to rob from the poor to give to the rich)
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To: Tribune7

The City if Philadelphia sucks and it has for a very long time


22 posted on 10/20/2007 10:15:29 AM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: kinsman redeemer
Not every homosexual is a predator -

Studies clearly show that percentage of homosexuals are predominant in same sex molestation cases. This increases where 'straight' men molest boys, a homosexual act. This is far out of proportion to the homosexual percentage of the population in general. Therefore, it is safer to view homosexuals as a threat to boys in scouting, safer for parents. Finally, most, if not all of the boy scout molestation incidences have been wrought by homosexuals.

23 posted on 10/20/2007 10:23:50 AM PDT by Godzilla (I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.)
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To: kindred
This is the goal of the leftist godless athiests of America.

The socialists goal is to destroy our Democratic Republic. One method is to make the family dysfunctional. In doing so they will destroy the foundation of the country.
24 posted on 10/20/2007 1:21:24 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: SandRat; RonF

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25 posted on 10/20/2007 8:34:40 PM PDT by Coleus (Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: Man50D

Wasn’t it Newt Gingrich who said that refusing to reward someone is not the same thing as punishing them?


26 posted on 10/23/2007 6:01:14 PM PDT by Squeaky Wheels
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