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To: narby
I'm not buying the story that Rudy is much of a liberal.

Your are kidding, right?

If you want a more authoritarian, bullying, more intrusive, more controlling, all-powerful, ‘big government knows what is best’, 'Big Brother' type of government,,,,,

headed by a pro-abortion, pro-amnesty, pro-litigation, gun-grabbing, gay-rights crusading, condescending, arrogant, and narcissistic, LIBERAL ‘pit bull’, New York lawyer who strongly believes in sanctuary cities, encouraging illegal aliens by telling them they are NOT really illegal, global warming and using our tax money for Federally-funded abortions,,,,

who worked in the Bobby Kennedy campaign, voted for George McGovern, who as mayor publicly distanced himself from Ronald Reagan, and who vocally supported and proudly endorsed a liberal, big-government, socialist democrat like Mario Cuomo over the Republican candidate for governor (largely because the Republican wanted ‘to cut taxes too much’), and has been a defender of Bill Clinton on more than one occasion,,,,

who ran for mayor the first time on the LIBERAL PARTY ticket, ,,

and who was SO LIBERAL that he wasn’t even invited to the Republican Convention in ’96--after refusing to endorse (until the last minute) the Republican candidate opposing Clinton,,,,

and a cousin-marrying, Clinton-apologist--whose personal life is an absolute TRAIN WRECK (almost making Bill Clinton look like a decent family man and loving husband--if that is even possible) is JUST THE MAN FOR THE JOB.

If you want to totally abandon and sacrifice traditional conservative principles and values--a LIBERAL RINO like Rudy JulieAnnie is JUST THE MAN FOR THE JOB!!!!

Yep, no reason to think that he is that much of a liberal at all....lol

49 posted on 10/20/2007 11:44:13 AM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative who will ENERGIZE the Party, not a liberal who will DEMORALIZE it!)
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To: stockstrader
If you want a more authoritarian, bullying, more intrusive, more controlling, all-powerful, ‘big government knows what is best’, 'Big Brother' type of government,,,,,

Then you'll make the mistakes that will allow Hillary to win.

From a strictly analytical position, Rudy would seem to have the best opportunity to pull centrist voters, the voters that actually decide elections.

But I'm thinking that Romney might have a very good ability to sell himself to centrists, once he gets a campaign rolling.

I'd love to see Fred win, but I think Hillary might destroy him.

Personally, I wish Gingrich was in the race. Although there seems to be as much Newt derangement syndrome around here as Rudy derangement. I love Gingrich's ability to start with a new page and do something new. America has lost it's dynamism, and he might be able to restore it.

But whomever wins the nomination, they'd best be able to beat Hillary. That's the bottom line for me. I'm just not sure who that would be. The question will likely turn on just how stubborn hard core conservatives are to get their way or the highway.

64 posted on 10/20/2007 11:58:45 AM PDT by narby
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