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Poll: Two-thirds of Wyoming voters support statewide smoking ban
casper star tribune ^ | 10/20/07 | N/A

Posted on 10/20/2007 1:52:53 PM PDT by Wheee The People

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To: mylife

I have always wondered what would happen if all the tobacco companies just stopped producing cigarettes prior to the big shakedown. Congress would have collectively crapped their pants when billions of tax dollars instantly dry up almost overnight. Even if they continued to pay the farmers and workers full price it would be cheap that the scam fines they got.


61 posted on 10/20/2007 5:20:23 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Dutch Boy

I wish they would.

I’ll just grow my own


62 posted on 10/20/2007 5:22:02 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Wheee The People
believe the right of customers and employees to breathe clean air outweighs smokers' right to light up indoors

Will they also ban office buildings with toxic synthetic materials in them, or polluting cars and trucks?

63 posted on 10/20/2007 5:23:25 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: mylife

I think it would only last a few weeks and the government would find all sorts of positive things about tobacco.

BTW - Is it illegal to grow home use tobacco or is it a climate restrictive crop?


64 posted on 10/20/2007 5:24:28 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: RKV
Good quote, RKV.
65 posted on 10/20/2007 5:33:16 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Madame Dufarge
(Grin)

I've been smoking for a long, long time and have never been bothered with menopause.

66 posted on 10/20/2007 5:36:55 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: gidget7
ALL states, and cities who ban smoking should not be allowed to collect taxes from cigarette sales.

I say we start campaigning for just that. :)

67 posted on 10/20/2007 5:40:22 PM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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To: Dutch Boy
BTW - Is it illegal to grow home use tobacco or is it a climate restrictive crop?

It's legal and easy. I was planning a small crop this year but
didn't get around to it. Seeds are sold online.

How long until they try taxing home growers?

68 posted on 10/20/2007 5:50:53 PM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: Just another Joe; CSM; lockjaw02; Publius6961; elkfersupper; nopardons; metesky; Mears; ...
The American Cancer Society and the Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids, a national group that supports smoke-free legislation, also helped pay for the poll.

This of course is a totally UNbiased poll....NOT.

Nanny State Ping.

69 posted on 10/20/2007 6:01:18 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: xcamel
Sounds an awful lot like “keep polling until you get the answer you want”

They use the exact same tactic in every state. In Delaware, a state with a population of less than 1 million, they polled 700 people. Amazingly, 700 was exactly the same number they used in Pennsylvania, New York and several other states with populations of many magnitudes larger than Delaware, yet claimed they were just as valid..........

70 posted on 10/20/2007 6:06:37 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: xcamel
I'm from NY - we did it nearly first. now all they do is whine about not getting enough 'cig taxes' "for the children"

I'm originally from NYC, but was unfortunate enough to be a Delawarean when they did it (before NY and just like NY, DE continues to whine about not enough cig taxes. IDIOTS.

Now I'm a Virginian and am trying to keep it from happening here.

71 posted on 10/20/2007 6:13:25 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: DoughtyOne
It is a state-wide smoking ban for public indoor places such as resturants, bars and a few other venues.

It is not even that. It is a statewide ban for indoor PRIVATE property. Indoor public places are government controlled buildings, not privately owned buildings.

72 posted on 10/20/2007 6:16:05 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Gabz

Yes, I believe you are correct. These are places where the public congregates, but they are privately owned enterprises.


73 posted on 10/20/2007 6:21:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Old Chinese Proverb (well sorta) say dance with the one who brung ya. Yes we very much like Crinton.)
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To: Gabz

“This of course is a totally UNbiased poll....NOT”

It’s just a poll, take it however you want...Here are some results that you can’t dismiss so easily...The following is the percentage of people who favor bans on smoking in recent elections:

Ohio 58%
Washington 63%
Arizona 54%
Nevada 53%
Florida 71%

Feel free to look up the percentages where the legislature passed the ban.


74 posted on 10/20/2007 6:26:39 PM PDT by Wheee The People (If Hillary wins in '08, your grandkids will be forced to speak Arabic.)
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To: DoughtyOne

That’s the thing that bugs me about these “polls.” They never make the distinction, thus blurring the fact that the proponents of these laws are actually looking to turn private property into “public” property.

I have long contended that if tobacco is so “deadly” it should be placed on the forbidden list of controlled substances. But guess who the major OPPONENTS of such a proposal are? If you guessed those proposing the smoking (actually smoker) bans, you would be correct. They rely too much on tobacco tax revenue to pad their pockets to consider such a solution.


75 posted on 10/20/2007 6:28:26 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Wheee The People

Just like those who conducted the poll, you are only touting the results because they agree with your agenda. The polls/studies/surveys/whatever that do not agree with the pre-ordained outcome never see the light of day.

Look at the wording of the questions in this “poll,” and tell me it is not weighted to get a specific predetermined percentage.

The same people do the same “poll” in whatever state and tend to claim similar results regardless of locale. There is no proof of the claims, just a one-sided press release issued.

Would you so blithely go along with the results of a CAIR funded “poll” that claimed “2/3 of the population of the state of X did not believe Islamics wished to kill Americans?” Or a La Raza funded poll that claimed “ 2/3 of the population of the State of X was in favor of illegals being given amnesty?”

I have to say you would, given your obvious acceptance of these results of”polls” funded by groups that stand to financially benefit from legislation based upon thier “polls.”


76 posted on 10/20/2007 6:44:17 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Wheee The People

How will they pay for healthcare?


77 posted on 10/20/2007 6:48:50 PM PDT by theymakemesick (End welfare and the crops will be picked)
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To: lesser_satan

thanks for the ping, i believe a similar story was posted some time ago tho, pretty amazing that 2/3rds of people belive this...


78 posted on 10/20/2007 6:49:18 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: antiunion person
Personnally, I’m for no smoking in eating establishments but there should be NO ban all other places. I bugs the hell out of me when someone smokes next to where I am eating. It’s just common decency and common courtesy NOT to smoke around people who are eating. My opinion for what it’s worth.

I agree. I'm a smoker but I really get annoyed if someone lights up while I'm still eating.

Proper smoking etiquette is that you don't light up until after all others have finished eating. And that will rarely happen in a restaurant unless it's mid-afternoon in a small town or something.

There is something about the smell of tobacco that inhibits appetite for many people. I lose all interest in food, even food I'm enjoying, if I so much as smell burning tobacco. It doesn't make me want to light up. It just annoys me.
79 posted on 10/20/2007 6:59:27 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: Bushbacker1
BTW, Montana just enacted a smoking ban indoors. Must be something to go outside in below zero weather to have a smoke!

I've lived in MT and WY. I'm not one bit surprised that either would ban smoking.

Now, ban chewing tobacco and we're talking armed insurrection.
80 posted on 10/20/2007 7:01:58 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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