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Justice says law degree 'worth 15 cents' (Clarence Thomas says because of Affirmative Action)
Yahoo News / AP ^ | October 20, 2007 | JOHN CHRISTOFFERSEN

Posted on 10/21/2007 3:41:16 PM PDT by Stoat

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Some of his black classmates say Thomas needs to get over his grudge because Yale opened the door to extraordinary opportunities.

And those 'opportunities' would have been more readily realized in a tangible sense, and there would have been far more of them had the degree not been tainted as substandard, thanks to Yale's affirmative action crimes.

Similar accounts as Justice Thomas' have been made by black engineers and people trained in a variety of schools....so very many have said the same thing, that affirmative action had reduced the value of their hard work and achievement.

1 posted on 10/21/2007 3:41:19 PM PDT by Stoat
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My Banker Boss in LA told me that when he was promoted to President in Chicago they also gave him a tutor to go with it because he was black. That’s messed up. (he’s 70 now)


2 posted on 10/21/2007 3:44:38 PM PDT by eyedigress
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I heard a caller into a radio show one time saying employers often don’t want of hire minorities b/c if the worker messes up they can’t be fired. Why would anyone want to hire someone that they can’t fire if the person ends up being a bad employee? Affirmative action is racists and as most liberal ideas generates the exact opposite of its stated intent (Jim Quinn, 104.7)
3 posted on 10/21/2007 3:49:29 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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I have a Yale law degree and all I got was this lousy t shirt and a seat on the US Supreme Court.


4 posted on 10/21/2007 3:53:55 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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My Banker Boss in LA told me that when he was promoted to President in Chicago they also gave him a tutor to go with it because he was black. That’s messed up. (he’s 70 now)

Did they do the same thing for white people in a similar position?  In fairness, people moving up the career ladder are oftentimes provided with some assistance in one form or another  to get them up to speed in a new job.

Was this done ONLY because he was black?  If that's the case, that would indeed be bad, and suggests that the bank didn't really want him there and was being forced to place him there against the wishes of other management members..

Or, it could also be because management there was composed of condescending liberals who supported affirmative action and who thought that blacks simply could never do the job without extra help.

5 posted on 10/21/2007 3:55:13 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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It seems a bit disengenuous for the other affirmative graduates to lay claim to how well “they” have done as if affimative actions stopped at graduation.

It would seem that at the their time of graduation there were few black Yale candidates to from which corporate affirmative action programs to choose.


6 posted on 10/21/2007 3:56:16 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Truthism Watch)
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According to him the latter would apply. He was a very smart man whom took his time on decision making.


7 posted on 10/21/2007 3:57:26 PM PDT by eyedigress
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Justice Clarence Thomas did not have to be taught principles or integrity, he had these when he left high school. His gained position is well deserved, he did not have to be a scum sucking liberal to reach the top.


8 posted on 10/21/2007 3:58:15 PM PDT by boomop1 (there you go again)
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Thomas did more than Okay, he did beautifully and he is 100% right about race, gender, and affirmative action. I know a half dozen men and women who would never have qualified had they not been part of the affirmative action and DC is full of non-qualified people holding positions they have no right to, basically ripping off the public….if government were cut in half today, no one would be missed.


9 posted on 10/21/2007 3:59:11 PM PDT by yoe ( NO THIRD TERM FOR THE CLINTON'S!!!)
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Justice Thomas is the essence of America and well disciplined. I wish him God Speed in all his resposibilities and decisions. :^)


10 posted on 10/21/2007 4:02:48 PM PDT by eyedigress
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Ooops... Responsibilities


11 posted on 10/21/2007 4:03:47 PM PDT by eyedigress
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so very many have said the same thing, that affirmative action had reduced the value of their hard work and achievement.

OM...Clarence Thomas is an outstanding man. Look at how the left did an injustice to him.

12 posted on 10/21/2007 4:04:22 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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I have a Yale law degree and all I got was this lousy t shirt and a seat on the US Supreme Court.

And see how much extra sweat, time and work it took him to earn his achievements as a result of affirmative action policies.

He's obviously a highly gifted and qualified individual who has achieved a great station in life.

There are millions of others, however, whose station does not afford them the media microphone that Justice Thomas's does, and millions (of all races and genders) whose lives have been destroyed in one way or another by these insidious and discredited social engineering schemes.

13 posted on 10/21/2007 4:10:22 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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I heard a caller into a radio show one time saying employers often don’t want of hire minorities b/c if the worker messes up they can’t be fired. Why would anyone want to hire someone that they can’t fire if the person ends up being a bad employee? Affirmative action is racists and as most liberal ideas generates the exact opposite of its stated intent (Jim Quinn, 104.7)

I understand that the sentiments you express are extremely common among employers, and are entirely justified.  Such situations interfere with the natural market processes of Capitalism and end up hurting all concerned.

14 posted on 10/21/2007 4:16:52 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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It seems a bit disengenuous for the other affirmative graduates to lay claim to how well “they” have done as if affimative actions stopped at graduation.

It would seem that at the their time of graduation there were few black Yale candidates to from which corporate affirmative action programs to choose.

Agreed on all counts.  The cancer of affirmative action exists throughout Government and industry and is frequently cited in early retirements, job frustrations and related family problems.

I have known several police officers who simply got fed up and stopped taking the Sergeant's promotional exam because they kept being passed over by dramatically lower-scoring minority candidates.

15 posted on 10/21/2007 4:21:39 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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There is something to that, but it was there before EEO, etc.


16 posted on 10/21/2007 4:23:40 PM PDT by RightWhale (50 years later we're still sitting on the ground)
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You can always judge an article by whom they give the last quote to. Enough said.


17 posted on 10/21/2007 4:28:45 PM PDT by Puddleglum
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According to him the latter would apply. He was a very smart man whom took his time on decision making.

It's very sad when a talented person of any race is forced to spend the autumn of their lives wondering how much more they could have accomplished had it not been for racial laws that affected them in one way or another.

There are millions out there who have been harmed, although most never dare to mention it because in today's climate they would be instantly tagged as 'a racist' when in reality it is these unjust laws that are racist.

18 posted on 10/21/2007 4:30:29 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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Let’s not try to make capitalism as a purely meritocraic process. Family and other connections help even Yale graduates get a leg up on the competition. Thomas doesn’t mention this, but his lack of any such connection probably hurt him as much as the downplaying of his degree. He was fortunate in that Danforth was taken with him. IAC, Richard Nixon had a similar experience. When he graduated from Duke Law School , no New York firm offered him a job despite his excellent record. Too bad: he would have made an excellent corporate lawyer. His background was almost as deprived as Thomas’.


19 posted on 10/21/2007 4:34:32 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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You can always judge an article by whom they give the last quote to. Enough said.

Really? 

The last quote in the article:

William Coleman says it's time for Thomas to move on.

"You did OK, guy," he said.

So, your feeling is that because Clarence Thomas has achieved a great station in life, he should simply forget about the injustices that he faced while getting there?

Should the people who did not achieve a great station in life also forget about similar injustices?

20 posted on 10/21/2007 4:34:54 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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