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UF Police Cleared In Taser Incident ("Don't tase me bro" Kerry event)
Local 6 (Florida) ^ | October 24, 2007

Posted on 10/24/2007 10:38:54 AM PDT by Stoat

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To: Stoat

I don’t think Kerry is under USSS protection. He’s not currently running for President is he? Even so, he won’t have such protection until the primaries are over.


21 posted on 10/24/2007 12:19:31 PM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://realitycheck.blogsome.com - and yes, yes, I'm a "FredHead". Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Stoat

Had this tazering happened at a Press Conference by President Bush there would have been hell all over. Committees from here to eternity, civil rights violations, New World order crap and so on.


22 posted on 10/24/2007 12:20:42 PM PDT by Ancient Drive
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To: ozzymandus; griswold3
Ugh. I tried to read that gunk, but as soon as I saw the name naomi wolfe, I knew it was going to be the usual USA=Nazi Germany puke.

Isn't this the shrill militant-feminist crone who was hired by the algore campaign to coach him on the art of becoming an 'alpha male'?

Yes, indeed 'she' is:

Reason Magazine - Albert Agonistes

Last fall's revelation that author-cum-political-operative Naomi Wolf was being paid $15,000 a month to coach Gore in the ways of the alpha male (wear earth tones, show your teeth more)

23 posted on 10/24/2007 12:29:16 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Rick.Donaldson
I don’t think Kerry is under USSS protection. He’s not currently running for President is he? Even so, he won’t have such protection until the primaries are over.

On that point you may well be correct.  I caught myself right after I posted that item, but too late!  I think that Secret Service protection 'usually' ends after someone is no longer a candidate, but in Kerry's specific case I'm honestly not sure.

I seem to recall that lifetime Secret Service protection only applies to former Presidents, Vice-Presidents and their families and current candidates.

24 posted on 10/24/2007 12:33:44 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Ancient Drive
Had this tazering happened at a Press Conference by President Bush there would have been hell all over.

I would imagine that the Secret Service officers protecting the President don't carry tasers, as they are too bulky and are not part of what I understand the Secret Service's mission and responsibilities to be.  An equally belligerent and abusive reporter at a Presidential Press Conference would have been treated with considerably greater harshness, I'll wager.

25 posted on 10/24/2007 12:41:13 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

When was he threatening the safety of anybody? Yet you still think he needed to be tased.

Yes, obviously the jackboots played on.


26 posted on 10/24/2007 1:00:38 PM PDT by burzum (None shall see me, though my battlecry may give me away -Minsc)
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To: Stoat

This case has done nothing more that affirm that police have the right to assault you even if you are not a physical threat to anybody.

What’s next? Getting tased because you failed to mow your lawn? Oh wait...


27 posted on 10/24/2007 1:05:29 PM PDT by burzum (None shall see me, though my battlecry may give me away -Minsc)
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To: burzum
 
When was he threatening the safety of anybody? It has never been a requirement that someone be threatening the safety of anyone else before force is allowed on the part of police officers.  Force is permitted when people fail to reasonably comply with lawful commands from law enforcement.  The officers gave him multiple, repeated, and completely legal commands and he repeatedly refused, all in his pathetic quest to intentionally create 'news' and to gain fame for himself

Yet you still think he needed to be tased.

Actually no, I think that he should have been tased and then dragged outside and beaten bloody because he was being such an insufferable little prick.

But that would not have made for good video, and so I remain in awe of the amazing restraint, superb professionalism and minimal force used by the officers.

Yes, obviously the jackboots played on.

Only in the imaginations of those who don't have a real-world perspective on how similar incidents are dealt with virtually anyplace else on Earth.

28 posted on 10/24/2007 1:18:00 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: burzum
What’s next? Getting tased because you failed to mow your lawn?

Failing to mow your lawn is not in and of itself an offense requiring the use of force.  A person who becomes belligerent and aggressive after being asked by law enforcement to maintain his property is.

29 posted on 10/24/2007 1:20:23 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: burzum
Did you watch the video?

He resisted. After he said that he would leave peacefully, he tried to break free and charge towards the stage.

Comparing his actions to mowing your lawn is just disingenuous of you.

30 posted on 10/24/2007 1:24:47 PM PDT by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: burzum
“When was he threatening the safety of anybody? Yet you still think he needed to be tased.”

I am no apologist for jackbooted cops. I think the feminaization of the culture has us a loooong way down the road toward jackbooted oppression BUT: What kind of faggot, making his point in this sort of situation thinks he is justified in fighting with the cops? In that situation I would have shouted out my points and let the cops haul me off (shouting). If you fight someone you are demonstrating your willingness to harm them in the service of your point

On the other hand, if I am sitting home minding my business and a sheriff pulls up and informs me that I am under arrest because my 3yr old, after a day at the beach, has a sunburn (this actually happened) THAT officer will be informed that no one is being arrested, no kid is being taken away from me and ‘are you, officer, on a hill, upon which, you are willing to die?

Fighting with cops who are merely doing their job is not an American right, and it isn’t terribly manly (or bright). The taseing, of course, probably flows more from the fact that many cops today are not physically able to wrestle with an adult male.

31 posted on 10/24/2007 1:58:05 PM PDT by TalBlack
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To: OCC

OCC, i am ROTFL

You so funneeeee.


32 posted on 10/24/2007 2:36:22 PM PDT by Shimmer (When someone loves you, the way they say your name is different)
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To: Stoat

florida cops never do anything wrong. ever. just ask the judges.


33 posted on 10/24/2007 6:32:32 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Keep The Heat On Hillary.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
florida cops never do anything wrong. ever. just ask the judges.

They probably do wrong things a bit less than the average folk because they're trained in matters of law, but they'll make a mistake occasionally because they're human.

The difference is, they are held to a far stricter standard of behavior than most people, and they pay a price when they do wrong.

34 posted on 10/24/2007 6:41:22 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: OCC

It very well might have been that situation and she might have misunderstood him given the stress of the moment. Didn’t he get tased multiple times?


35 posted on 10/24/2007 6:47:57 PM PDT by OldEagle
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To: OldEagle; Shimmer
Hard to tell if it was a bro or a ho wielding the taser in this pic.


36 posted on 10/24/2007 6:54:55 PM PDT by OCC
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To: Stoat; RolandBurnam

Isn’t interesting how these people who accuse everyone of being “jackboots” have no concept of what real “jackboots” do?


37 posted on 10/24/2007 7:01:45 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: TalBlack

“probably flows more from the fact that many cops today are not physically able to wrestle with an adult male.”

I am not a LEO, but I am certain that I am physically able to wrestle down a good percentage of adult males. But, I would never do so unless an absolute necessity. You’d be stupid to take the chance.


38 posted on 10/24/2007 7:04:15 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: OCC

Excuse me, but is that cop in the foreground pointing a loaded gun at some jerk who is not being violent, when there are a crowd of people behind said jerk???????


39 posted on 10/24/2007 7:29:48 PM PDT by Shimmer (When someone loves you, the way they say your name is different)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
Isn’t interesting how these people who accuse everyone of being “jackboots” have no concept of what real “jackboots” do?

Agreed....the absurdity of even using the term "jackboots" in the context of ANYTHING that occurs in the United States instantly paints the user as someone who's had a bit too much caffeine   :-)

40 posted on 10/24/2007 7:33:00 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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