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Is Ron Paul really so crazy? (townhall)
Townhall.com ^ | 10/23/07 | Jason Wharton

Posted on 10/24/2007 12:03:08 PM PDT by traviskicks

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To: Badeye
They also like to disrupt little Bill Maher’s HBO show these days.

Winning friends and influencing people, working on raising their negatives.

47% of Voters Would NEVER Vote for Ron Paul; 50% Would NEVER Vote for Hillary Clinton

61 posted on 10/24/2007 1:01:33 PM PDT by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: Schnucki
Townhall??

Their blog, not a columnist. He's with the Mesa, AZ East Valley Ron Paul 2008 Meetup & Education Group

Meet Jason L Wharton

62 posted on 10/24/2007 1:03:07 PM PDT by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: Jonathon Spectre
You know what? Why don't you go to a liberal site and whine? I'm a Conservative. I'm a registered Republican. As far as I am concerned, there are two and only two parties in this country that count for anything. If Americans want things righted they will join one, or the other instead of being "I'm independent" or acting like and ass and blaming any one administration for the troubles we suffer.

Instead why don't you wake up and smell the coffee and find out why Socialists are getting in control of this country.
63 posted on 10/24/2007 1:04:00 PM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://realitycheck.blogsome.com - and yes, yes, I'm a "FredHead". Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson; Jonathon Spectre; jimrob
To quote our founder: Antiwar activism is no more welcome on FR than is abortion activism, gay rights activism, gun control activism or any other leftist/socialist cause.
64 posted on 10/24/2007 1:06:20 PM PDT by mnehring (Who is Chris Peden? http://www.chrispeden.org/)
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To: mnehrling
Well, OK, since you asked nicely!

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Actually, I think your text is actually funnier than mine, which is a tough one, because I am very darn funny.

65 posted on 10/24/2007 1:08:31 PM PDT by -=SoylentSquirrel=-
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To: traviskicks
A little history.
66 posted on 10/24/2007 1:08:45 PM PDT by KDD (A nod is as good as a wink to a blind horse)
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To: traviskicks
Ron Paul is sad and out of touch with reality, but not any more than the author.

"Ron Paul’s popularity is because there are many who are hungry for answers that make sense of all they see going on in the world who don't buy the idea that we are hated because we are rich and free."

If we aren't hated because we are (or used to be) rich and free, then why is it that the UN, the Europeans, the Chinese, Russians, third world Communists, etc., spend all their time trying to figure out how to fleece us of our last dime, meanwhile criticizing and reprimanding us to "fix" all the things that go wrong in the world that everyone else is too lazy or uninterested to be bothered to do?

67 posted on 10/24/2007 1:14:52 PM PDT by penowa
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To: mnehrling
Paul also supported the NAU superhighway by funding the TransTexas Corridor

That's the NAU conspiracy highway isn't it? He voted to fund that? A bit inconsistant.

RP: The NAFTA Superhighway. And uh… They’re talking about the “ Omero” as a currency. It’s the early stages… It’s exactly what happened in the early stages of the European Union.

HE: Who’s responsible -- who’s behind that?

RP: Those people who are really in charge of our government.

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Even more troubling are reports that under this new "partnership," a massive highway is being planned to stretch from Canada into Mexico, through the state of Texas. This is likely to cost the US taxpayer untold billions of dollars, will require eminent domain takings on an almost unimaginable scale, and will make the US more vulnerable to those who seek to enter our country to do us harm.


68 posted on 10/24/2007 1:17:56 PM PDT by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: Tears of a Clown

http://muslimsvoteronpaul.com/

Why should YOU vote for Ron Paul?
Assalaamu Alaikum Brothers and Sisters,
(snip)
Brothers and Sisters, please vote for Ron Paul in the Republican Primaries. It’s our obligation to come together and try to stand up for not only our best interests, but the best interests of the entire Ummah. Living here in the West, we are obligated to do so. Otherwise, we are partly to blame for all the actions our government takes in our name.

American Muslims must RISE and UNITE. Let your voice be heard. InshAllah (God-willing), we can spread the word and make a difference.


69 posted on 10/24/2007 1:18:27 PM PDT by listenhillary (millions crippled by the war on poverty....but we won't pull out)
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To: SJackson
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Not very funny, I know, but I tend to lose creative steam towards the afternoon.

70 posted on 10/24/2007 1:19:14 PM PDT by -=SoylentSquirrel=-
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To: SJackson
That’s his signature on it.. typical politician, says one thing to one group, another thing to another group, and runs out and does a completely different thing.
71 posted on 10/24/2007 1:19:33 PM PDT by mnehring (Who is Chris Peden? http://www.chrispeden.org/)
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To: Jonathon Spectre

Sounds like something a DUmmie would say.

“Iran is harmless!”

“Useless, endless war!”

“Islamofacism doesn’t exist!”


72 posted on 10/24/2007 1:21:36 PM PDT by Tears of a Clown
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To: traviskicks

I didn’t read the article but the WOT is the one thing Paul is crazy on. His ‘stick to the Constitution’ views on most everything else are right on the money. Tancredo, Thompson, Huckabee and even Romney echoed the same principles on various things. I don’t think Huckabee or Romney actually believe in federalism though.


73 posted on 10/24/2007 1:22:26 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: mnehrling

Sometimes alliances are transitory. Yeah, okay, I accept the simplistic premise we put Saddam in power and kept him there.

And then, realizing our mistake, took his freakin’ a$$ OUT!


74 posted on 10/24/2007 1:27:42 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Remember Billy Dale!!!)
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To: Jonathon Spectre

If Ron Paul gets the nomination, he will lose the election.

3 percent doesn’t equal a winning presidential candidate. Having 8 more years of Clinton makes me want to throw up. Not just a little spittle, but massive endless projectile vomiting that feels like you are vomiting up stuff from your toes type of vomiting.

Save your condescending attitude for someone who will appreciate it.


75 posted on 10/24/2007 1:28:59 PM PDT by listenhillary (millions crippled by the war on poverty....but we won't pull out)
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To: SJackson
Their blog, not a columnist. He's with the Mesa, AZ East Valley Ron Paul 2008 Meetup & Education Group

Does this mean that any complete idiot is allowed to borrow Townhall's name and "blog" whatever comes out their butts?

76 posted on 10/24/2007 1:29:03 PM PDT by Schnucki
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To: traviskicks
Another blame America first non-interventionist.

For example, who is it that "radicalized" Islam to fight against the Russians? We did!

B.S. Islam has been radical for longer than we have been the United States. We did not radicalize Islam so they would fight against the Russians. We did supply radical Muslims with weapons and training with which to fight the Russians, because we felt that the Russians were a greater threat at the time, but we aren't at fault for making them radical.

We created Osama Bin Laden.

Osama Bin Laden created himself. We helped arm his fighters in their battles against the Russians, but we didn't create him or drive him to attack innocent people.

We created and installed Sadaam Hussein.

We have many. many times supported what we believed to be the lesser of two evils. That does not mean that we created those people or that we are responsible for their actions.

Should we all stay home on election day because we are afraid the candidate we vote for might not be perfect? Should we just refuse to get involved in anything because we might have to make a choice between two less than perfect options?

I guess I really don't understand why Paul gets any votes. If you follow non-interventionism shouldn't you just stay home and not vote?

To answer pressing questions of our time, Ron Paul relies on historical facts many American's are ignorant of. He isn't afraid to reveal clandestine operations and interventions motivated out of our national self-interest or special-interests that have had detrimental results to other peoples in the world.

What a load of crap. I don't know anyone who is blind to the fact that our government has taken actions in other parts of the world and those actions haven't always worked out well. Ron Paul doesn't lack in support because everyone is blind to our Country's past mistakes. He lacks support because most people realize that it is easier to criticize than to act. They also realize that inaction allows others to choose for you.

Inaction rarely solves serious problems. If a problem simply goes away it probably wasn't that serious, however we have plenty of historical references where inaction allowed problems to grow into worldwide conflicts.

Where would non-interventionists draw the line? Are they complete pacifists that wouldn't raise a hand to defend themselves or those they love? Will they take action within their own home? How about within their neighborhood? Their city? Their state? The United States? Where does our responsibility end? Where can we safely ignore events without them eventually effecting us?

Non-interventionism lacks consistency and rationality. Ron Paul is insane. Not because he's taking on some powerful group out of this author's conspiracy theory. He's insane because he isn't consistent or rational.

It's much easier to stick your head in the sand and accuse those trying to actually solve problems of being part of some conspiracy than to actually do anything. It seems to be human nature to rationalize inaction and accuse others.

However rationalization is the attempt to make the unreasonable seem reasonable. It is an attempt to make irresponsibility appear like responsibility. It is an effort to trick yourself into believing something that isn't true. When it's about something as serious as this, it's insane.

77 posted on 10/24/2007 1:29:24 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: Right Cal Gal
Exactly. If Saddam was our fault and a result of our blowback as his little minions like to say, then whose responsibility would it be to clean up the mess we made? Us. Their little blowback discussions can easily be turned on them in so many ways.
78 posted on 10/24/2007 1:32:19 PM PDT by mnehring (Who is Chris Peden? http://www.chrispeden.org/)
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To: listenhillary

Paul Poses Serious Threat to Hillary Clinton in a General Election Match up
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1895689/posts


79 posted on 10/24/2007 1:33:01 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Schnucki
Does this mean that any complete idiot is allowed to borrow Townhall's name and "blog" whatever comes out their butts?

I've never tried, but that's my understanding. If you go to their Blogs page, they have several thousand, with a create your own blog button.

80 posted on 10/24/2007 1:36:48 PM PDT by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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