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To: blam

My first thought was- would SHE be so forgiving of a joke about the width of black people’s noses? Hmmmmm
And she’s bi-racial, half black and half white. I don’t get the identification with the black race only. Furthermore, she’s having a baby for a white man. Will she consider her baby black?
Different subject, I know, but it’s one of my pet peeves.


63 posted on 10/25/2007 3:31:03 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: ClearBlueSky

Have you ever seen when two biracial (black/white) parents have a kid?

The kid can look:

-completely white
-completely black
-biracial

It’s kinda neat.


66 posted on 10/25/2007 3:33:26 PM PDT by RockinRight (The Council on Illuminated Foreign Masons told me to watch you from my black helicopter.)
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To: ClearBlueSky

Traditionally we are a patriarchal society. Halle has her father’s name - that might be her context.

Wonder when folks do a geneology search do they first check the paternal side? I did.

Interesting isn’t it?


71 posted on 10/25/2007 3:38:29 PM PDT by sodpoodle (When you can't handle the truth...............try satire.)
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To: ClearBlueSky; laweeks; All
To: ClearBlueSky; laweeks; All

"[You] don’t get the identification with the black race only."

It's easy, and you probably are aware of it, even if you don't want to recognize it. Society. American society (European descended dominated) generally considers people with noticeable non-European ancestry as being that non-European ancestry (if one non-European ancestry). Do you think that this is not so?

If society has been telling Halle Berry, Vanessa Williams, etc. that they are 'black' from a young age, can't you see how they might come to view themselves as 'black?'

The same with a lot of 'hyphenated Americans.' Do you realize just how much [insert some word suggesting anger] they have to put up with being asked 'what country they are from' and being automatically labeled as 'Latino,' 'Asian,' etc. even though they are accentless or have the accent of their American region? A lot. If they are treated as foreigners over and over again--especially during their formative years--why shouldn't they come to see themselves as belonging in part to some foreign place (logically, not that they ought to).

So stop putting all of the blame on them and pretending as though the European-descendant-dominated society does not bear the bulk of the responsibility for either people such as Halle Berry not going out of their way to acknowledge their non-African ancestry or for many hyphenated Americans and poor assimilation.

You want Halle Berry to label herself black and white (should just be 'American)? Then get society to stop considering her black. You want non-European descendants without a foreign accent to stop being hyphenated Americans? Then get society to stop asking them what country they are from and labeling them as foreigners, and get society to start treating them as the American natives they are.

(And note: not only European descendants do the above, but if you're bringing 'race' (and 'team identity') into this, then European descendants are both the majority 'race' and the 'race' most in charge of the leadership and the media, and thus are the primary trend-setters in American society).


Posted on 10/25/2007 9:40:39 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail? )


93 posted on 10/25/2007 5:01:38 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: ClearBlueSky

” I don’t get the identification with the black race only.”

Because, in general, people are judged by apperence.


139 posted on 10/26/2007 8:05:26 AM PDT by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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