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Overstock.com Founder Refuses to Apologize for Comments About Minority Dropouts
FoxNews.com ^ | October 27, 2007 | AP

Posted on 10/27/2007 6:44:54 AM PDT by ShadowDancer

Overstock.com Founder Refuses to Apologize for Comments About Minority Dropouts

Saturday, October 27, 2007

SALT LAKE CITY — The founder of Overstock.com rejected the NAACP's demand for an apology Friday after an Internet video surfaced of him saying that Utah minorities who don't graduate from high school might as well be burned or thrown away.

Patrick Byrne's comments were posted on YouTube. The video clip was from a debate two weeks ago in Provo, where he was speaking in favor of vouchers, public aid for families sending kids to private schools.

A statewide voucher program that would grant $500 to $3,000 per child based on family income is on the Utah ballot Nov. 6.

On the YouTube video clip, Byrne says: "Right now, 40 percent of Utah minorities are not graduating from high school. You may as well burn those kids. That's the end of their life. That's the end of their ability to achieve in this society if they do not get a high school education. You might as, just throw the kids away."

Byrne has made similar remarks in other debates. He said Friday he had no intention of apologizing and claimed his comments were taken out of context.

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1 posted on 10/27/2007 6:44:56 AM PDT by ShadowDancer
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To: ShadowDancer

NAACP should be applauding any effort that will keep blacks in school. But then, they’re not about successful blacks. They’re about stopping any criticism whatsoever about blacks, no matter how badly they screw up.


2 posted on 10/27/2007 6:49:33 AM PDT by Lizavetta ( Politicians: When they're speaking, they're lying - when they're not speaking, they're stealing.)
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To: Lizavetta
But then, they’re not about successful blacks

true but too many successful blacks sure feel the heat to keep a seat on the victimhood train

wish the NAACP was as concerned about black crime and illegitimacy as they are phantom white racism

3 posted on 10/27/2007 6:52:39 AM PDT by wardaddy (Behind the lines in Vichy Nashville)
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To: ShadowDancer

OMG-the msm taking someone’s statement(s)out of context??And a CEO who actually has the b@lls to stand up to the msm?That guy deserves a pat on the back.


4 posted on 10/27/2007 6:55:36 AM PDT by Thombo2
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To: ShadowDancer
Borrowing from Edwin Star:

Dropouts! - huh- yeah-
What are they good for?
Absolutely nothing Uh-huh

Dropouts! – huh – yeah-
What are they good for?
Absolutely nothing
Say it again y’all

Dropouts! – huh – good God
What are they good for?
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me…

Ohhh… Dropouts! I despise
Because it means destruction’
Of all their lives

Dropouts mean tears
to thousands of mothers eyes
When their kids quit school
and screw up their lives

I said - Dropouts! Huh – Good God y’all
What are they good for?
Absolutely nothing
Say it again

5 posted on 10/27/2007 6:55:50 AM PDT by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: ShadowDancer

How do those opposed to vouchers think they won’t benefit from this? The public school system is running scared because they are being brought into the light, and how they are becoming a complete failure. This guy should be praised for standing firm in his stance. Kudos to him.


6 posted on 10/27/2007 6:55:52 AM PDT by Not just another dumb blonde
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To: ShadowDancer

The NAACP should give this guy a medal.


7 posted on 10/27/2007 6:56:01 AM PDT by Roses0508
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To: ShadowDancer

IIRC, Overstock.com gives generously to the libs. That being said, I’m surprised the NAACP would go after him.


8 posted on 10/27/2007 7:03:46 AM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: Not just another dumb blonde

“Kudos to him.” I agree 100%. I guess the truth in America is no longer relevant, it’s the color of your skin that counts. Every day I remember back to high school and two books I had to read, George Orwell’s “1984” and “The Animal Farm”. My God are those books right on today.


9 posted on 10/27/2007 7:07:42 AM PDT by Plains Drifter (If guns kill people, wouldn't there be a lot of dead people at gun shows?)
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This is not about racism. This is about the school voucher proposition!

The NAACLP is philosophically aligned with the Left, Dems, and most importantly with the NEA. The NEA is fighting this voucher vote tooth and nail and are doing everything possible to defeat this proposition. The attack on Mr. Byrne is merely another example of “If you can’t attack the issue, smear the messenger”.

They know that if this program succeeds, the whole lie of government indoctrination centers (otherwise called public schools), will be exposed. They cannot face any scrutiny caused by widespread, fair competition in education.

The vote on the voucher proposition is Nov. 6 and I am urging all Utahns to vote for it. In full disclosure, I must say I have no kids of school age. Of course, if I did, they would be home schooled anyway. I’m just tired of any of my tax dollars finding their way into democrat political contributions!

10 posted on 10/27/2007 7:09:11 AM PDT by hotshu (Rush is RIGHT! The left is WRONG!)
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To: ShadowDancer

A little sensative? Too many HS dropouts at the NAACP, I suspect.


11 posted on 10/27/2007 7:12:55 AM PDT by Ron in Acreage (Conservative 1st, republican sometime)
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To: ShadowDancer

Obviously, he has never heard of the redemptive work of Jesus Christ


12 posted on 10/27/2007 7:14:34 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: ShadowDancer

He’s right.


13 posted on 10/27/2007 7:18:05 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Lizavetta

Inner city blacks are practicing something called tribalism. It is common amongst very poor and ignorant groups in the US. Historically, the Irish immigrants practiced the samething. Like blacks they think everyone in the country is out to get them (because they are Catholic) and the only way to survive is to practice absolute solidarity with your own kind. Thus you support your Irish candidate in an election against a non Irish even if the person you support is known for corruption. This mentality eventually broke down as Irish left their neighborhoods in the east coast cities and migrated west to see German Catholics were doing well, thus debunking the myth that the American Protestants were hell bent on keeping Catholics down. The key to breaking black tribalism is educated blacks go back and try to mentor (constructively criticize) their inner city blacks out of this mentality. A conservative black man told me that he has a better chance of talking and correcting black youths than a white person, because any comment that seems legitimate and reasonable to normal person will cause the black youth to bristle because the messenger is not from his own race. Looking back historically, we should not have brought them over as slaves, then free them and not socially accept them, give them welfare and pampered them over our guilt and today we have this burden on our society in the 21st Century.


14 posted on 10/27/2007 7:24:13 AM PDT by Fee (An American empire can only be built by leaders with the stomach of Romans.)
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To: Not just another dumb blonde

The NAACP and the teachers lobby have the same interests at heart—highly paid sinecure jobs with minimal accountability and maximum political pull. You don’t see children or education in the list because they don’t matter to these groups.


15 posted on 10/27/2007 7:28:59 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: AppyPappy

Obviously, he was talking about the potential of these people to be decent citizens rather than drug dealers, prostitutes, single mothers, and other thugs. Or sweep floors.


16 posted on 10/27/2007 7:34:53 AM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: AppyPappy

“Obviously, he has never heard of the redemptive work of Jesus Christ”

Does the NAACP support that?


17 posted on 10/27/2007 7:35:15 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (The WOT will end when pork products are weaponized)
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"Right now, 40 percent of Utah minorities are not graduating from high school. You may as well burn those kids. That's the end of their life. That's the end of their ability to achieve in this society if they do not get a high school education. You might as, just throw the kids away."

The truths within statements like this mean absolutely nothing.

What matters MORE is WHO spoke them.

If it had been Bill Cosby or Thomas Sowell making these remarks, there might be harrumphing amongst the poverty-pimping community, but nothing more, and even applause in some circles.

But because the comments came from a WHITE person, they are "racist".

Again, what was said matters not - who did the speaking, matters more.

For this reason, constructive dialog on such subjects is all-but impossible, and as such, there really isn't much of a solution as minority communties continue to decline, and the underclass sinks lower.

The only glimmer of hope is that Mr. Byrne steadfastly refuses to apologize - well, at least FOR NOW....

It is only when Euro-Americans shake off their "white guilt", and refuse to apologize en masse, that any constructive progress will be made.

- John

18 posted on 10/27/2007 7:36:41 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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That's the end of their ability to achieve in this society if they do not get a high school education.

The statement is factually untrue. There are numerous fields in which one can earn a decent living and even become wealthy as a high school dropout.

My brother-in-law, for instance, is a highly successful general contractor, with several hundred people working for him.

He dropped out of high school 20 years ago at the age of 16. Went through some tough times, then pulled his act together, went to work for an construction company, learned the business from the ground up and eventually went out on his own.

Never let schooling interfere with your education.

19 posted on 10/27/2007 7:44:25 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: ShadowDancer
The Big Oops
20 posted on 10/27/2007 7:45:56 AM PDT by mikrofon (Oh-Oh)
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