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A system that at lets you opt out of government health care and seek private care and treatment is reasonable. The Canadian system forbids that. As did Hillary care in the 1990’s. In other countries with socialized medicine (UK, NZ, etc) you can receive free care in the public system or get private care through cash or privately purchased (not employer provided) health insurance.

To me that is a reasonable approach. There is the public system as a safety net but you can make your own arrangements if you choose.

To me that is a reasonable approach

It is not the federal or state business to run a health insurance business.

And just when has government ever:

1: ran anything successfully.

2: Ran anything economically

3. Not encroached incrementally until they had total control - "toe in door" modus operandi"

Don't let these wolves in sheeps clothing in the door - their basket of goodies is poisoned

Just because someone is born does not mean that I have to pay for their medicine, or their food, or their rent. I have to pay for a lot of people who are third generation welfare people.

I am not their slave and I resent being forced to pay for a bunch of welfare careerists.

The welfare system in socialism eliminates the private safety nets like churches, charities or families. PS if you are a lazy slob and have to live with your family, they eventually tell you to get off your fat rear and work. help.

Too many of these welfare careerists, I call them dolists vote for people like Hillary or other democrats. I say let them starve or pay for their own dirty needles.

If you create a medical safety net, you take away the freedoms of doctors and pharmaceutical companies to make profits and then turn those profits back into miracle cures of the future. After ten or fifteen years those miracle cures are then available for a fraction of their inital cost to people across the world, including the other socialist countries who produce very few medical cures compared to our private system. Almost anyone even the very poor have access to those cures and treatments if they pursue doctors and pharmaceutical companies representatives. It just takes asking for help and there are plenty of people who will help them.

Let the government prove it can managa social security, then maybe it can be trusted to manage something else like the welfare system. The government already has almost destroyed our medical system. That is most of the reason why medical costs spiral out of control. My wife can not get a flu shot at her private doctors, do you think the giveaway of flu vaccines at supermarkets and to the poor have anything to do with that.

Did I hide my disdain for an incompetent bureaucracy? PS I am one of those bureaucrats and I hate the stifling regulations, and the lazy bureaucrats who are impossible to fire because of the crappy racist government unions and ACLU lawyers and liberal judges and hearing examiners.

Did I leave anything out?

A system that at lets you opt out of government health care and seek private care and treatment is reasonable.

No it isn't reasonable b/c costs, of health care, of education, of anything, will skyrocket and have skyrocket once the government "helps". So the only people able to fully afford college, especially private college, are the truly rich...thanks to government subsidies....the same will happen to health care (we have Medicaid now which is a sample of what you are talking about) if the government gets any more involved. Government "help", regulations, and involvement leads to high prices and poor access.

The end game for any one who wants universal health care IS to fully socialize medicine and have government gain control of 1/6 of the US economy. When prices go up then less people are able to opt out of government coverage. There is a tipping point: as more people pile onto to government care, prices increase so more have to pile on and pretty soon only the rich can opt out.

If the Democrat-Scocialist party were really about choice and opportunity then the last thing they would want is to grow government....of course choice and opportunity are not what Marxists are about.