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1 posted on 10/27/2007 10:20:56 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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The government has a number of options. The land needed for the border fence can simply be "taken" with compensation set by the court in case the landowner rejects the offer.

Alternatively, the government can go to court with counterclaims regarding the location of the boundary. There the landowner stands a chance of losing any compensation at all.

Another option would be to build the fence AROUND the distrungled property owner conveniently leaving him on the Mexican side (with no entrance into the US).

Of all the solutions possible I prefer moving the border to the North. If these guys don't want to play ball with the US, then the US shouldnt play ball with them.

2 posted on 10/27/2007 10:26:47 AM PDT by muawiyah
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Time for some use the old-fashioned imminent domaining.


4 posted on 10/27/2007 10:29:20 AM PDT by tailgunner (Conservative-Libertarian-Confederate-American)
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Uhh, last I heard they were not planning to build the fence across the roads at the Ports of Entry. Sooooo, just what other cross border traffic is being discussed?
5 posted on 10/27/2007 10:32:04 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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Why this is even news is beyond me. A bunch of mexican surnamed folks don’t want to follow the law of the land?

How freakin surprising is that?


6 posted on 10/27/2007 10:34:35 AM PDT by bill1952 ("all that we do is done with an eye towards something else." - Aristotle)
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"And now they are trying to move the border further north than established by treaty."

What is that about? If some of our land is in Mexico, let's go take it and build the fence there!

7 posted on 10/27/2007 10:37:30 AM PDT by Tai_Chung
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The entire demographics, and thus destiny, of the U.S. must be transformed so that a few landowners not be bothered with a fence bordering their property.


8 posted on 10/27/2007 10:37:34 AM PDT by Plutarch
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"I think it's blood money, bribery," said Brownsville Mayor Patricio M. Ahumada Jr.

Blood Money, Patricio, well just maybe your loyalties favor south of the Rio Grand, NOT the U.S.A.

9 posted on 10/27/2007 10:37:48 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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"I think it's blood money, bribery," said Brownsville Mayor Patricio M. Ahumada Jr.

Nah. Call it a newly-discovered cultural appreciation of the Mexican practice of mortida.

14 posted on 10/27/2007 10:43:31 AM PDT by dorothy ( “The firm basis of government is justice, not pity.” —Woodrow Wilson)
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The argument that the government can do nothing is a lot of BS.They can use the “immanent domain” option if they choose to, like a 50 foot path from one end to the other of the disputed land.


15 posted on 10/27/2007 10:51:41 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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Well since these ‘landowners’ are so opposed to keeping illegals out, let them pay my taxes that support the illegals.
Sounds fair to me.


17 posted on 10/27/2007 10:58:40 AM PDT by sheana
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Is the opposition to the fence because they will lose access to the water?

Before jumping to big govt. taking from citizens (eminent domain) or making negative comments about a whole group of people (surname reference) maybe a little analysis of why there is opposition should take place. Aren’t those on the border the most vulnerable and shouldn't they be the first to support a fence?

21 posted on 10/27/2007 11:17:06 AM PDT by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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Benavides, a lifelong resident of Roma, said residents and local governments may eventually lose their battle against the fence, but they plan to keep fighting. State officials, including Republican Gov. Rick Perry, also oppose plans to build the fence.

Next, these guys will want to give back the Alamo. :-(

23 posted on 10/27/2007 11:21:33 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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I have been down there, along the Rio Grande in south texas is 95% latino. The Latino power is big The land is probably owned by them for a couple of generations now, it’s Mexico for all practically purpose. Thats why the refusal to allow a fence. Its too late, critical mass has been reached years ago.
24 posted on 10/27/2007 11:25:49 AM PDT by modican
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Have the landowners never heard of eminent domain? That is the next step, and a legitimate use of the government’s power. A step towards national defense, if you will.

That is opposed to the local (New Jersey) situation in which communities are trying to take well located properties to enable larger tax ratables to be built.


25 posted on 10/27/2007 11:25:57 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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Phuque 'em ...

EMMINENT DOMAIN

26 posted on 10/27/2007 11:31:04 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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Congress has authorized $1.2 billion to build 700 miles of fencing along the U.S.-Mexico border. The project includes about 330 miles of so-called virtual fence - a network of cameras, high-tech sensors, radar and other technology. The remaining sections, primarily in urban areas are expected to have an actual fence. About 70 miles of actual fence is planned in South Texas.

Bush... we voted for a warrior, and we got a NWO idiot who lacks the guts and common sense to defend our border. Our "virtual fence" sections should only be virtual in one sense: that they are made up of labels that say "THIS END TOWARDS ENEMY".
29 posted on 10/27/2007 11:44:35 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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"You are talking about land that Texans and Americans shed blood for to keep," he said.

When did that ever matter?

34 posted on 10/27/2007 12:19:59 PM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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Use the eminent domain law. Isn't that why the Supremes passed that law, or is that just for things that the government really wants to build?
36 posted on 10/27/2007 12:24:52 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Some elected people are alive only because it's illegal to kill them!!!)
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These guys need to go back to their country of origin and Bush needs to quit attacking American citizens with bizzare ways to not build the fence.


44 posted on 10/27/2007 12:48:25 PM PDT by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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Build the fence everywhere except these disputed sections. That will funnel all the illegals through those points. When these land owners and towns who have refused it have had enough and are begging for a fence charge them for it.


49 posted on 10/27/2007 1:01:14 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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