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Biofuels 'crime against humanity'[UN Expert]
BBC ^ | 27 Oct 2007 | Grant Ferrett

Posted on 10/27/2007 11:33:03 AM PDT by BGHater

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To: NVDave
And as a result, you get high priced corn in Mexico, because their corn farmers were put out of business.

Yep, and this illustrates the danger of subsidies. More of the same, likely, will worsen the problem.

41 posted on 10/27/2007 12:59:25 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (The hyphen American with the loudest whine gets the grease.)
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To: BGHater
Sam Kinison talking about how to solve World Hunger. (clean version)
42 posted on 10/27/2007 1:07:33 PM PDT by gunservative
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To: eyedigress
Why did the price of corn triple in Mexico?

Because domestic demand for corn for use in biofuels is higher in the United States, which pushes the price up. Now you tell ME this: why should I give a tinker's damn about the price of tortillas in Mexico? Did Mexico worry about how much it was charging for its lousy, high-sulfur crude? Or did they price that oil consistent with international demand?

Is it to bring the poor up to their (sellers) level?

No, it's to make as much money for a bushel of corn as possbile. How is that wrong to do with corn but perfectly acceptable with other commodities?

43 posted on 10/27/2007 1:52:26 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: BGHater

Wow! even a broken clock is right twice a day


44 posted on 10/27/2007 2:07:31 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Navy Patriot

follow the money and you will likely find Archer Daniels Midland and Cargill


45 posted on 10/27/2007 2:12:05 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

ADM has taken over TN.


46 posted on 10/27/2007 2:35:40 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Navy Patriot

1) Corn isn’t eaten directly by humans anyway, and

2) If a UN “expert” claims today will be sunny and warm, don’t leave home without your coat and umbrella.


47 posted on 10/27/2007 2:40:36 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: IronJack
Puhleeze!


48 posted on 10/27/2007 2:42:19 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: mylife
follow the money and you will likely find Archer Daniels Midland and Cargill

Sure, that was the war MTBE vs ethanol. Joe Sixpack lost.

49 posted on 10/27/2007 2:49:50 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (The hyphen American with the loudest whine gets the grease.)
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To: Mr. Lucky
Corn isn’t eaten directly by humans anyway

I forgot.


50 posted on 10/27/2007 3:00:53 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (The hyphen American with the loudest whine gets the grease.)
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To: eyedigress

Brilliant rebuttal.


51 posted on 10/27/2007 3:25:48 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: IronJack

It’s a marketing thingy from 82’ :^)


52 posted on 10/27/2007 3:38:06 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: BGHater

“The growth in the production of biofuels has been driven, in part, by the desire to find less environmentally-damaging alternatives to oil.”

The Wall Street Journal editorial on this Oct 17. In addition to using up good farm land and driving up food prices, corn production for the purpose of making ethanol is causing a water crisis in the mid west. The direct production of ethanol, plus the irrigation for the addtional corn required, necessitates 1700 gallons of water per gallon of ethanol. According to one study, the US would need to convert 43% of its farmland to corn production in order to add replace 10% of its gasoline and diesel fuel with ethanol. Talk about environmental damage.

Not only that, but using corn to produce ethanol will cause a net increase in green house gases compared to gasoline made from petroleum. This is largely due to the fact that the manufacture of fertilizers used for this purpose releases nitrous oxide into the atmosphere. This gas has a greenhouse effect that is 500 times as potent as carbon dioxide. But when it comes to dealing with a problem the government is absolutely masterful at taking a bad thing and making it worse. The “free trade” US government is imposing a 55 cents per gallon tarriff on Brazilian ethanol imports. Brazilian ethanol is made from cane sugar results in a net decrease in green house gases compared to petroleum gasoline.


53 posted on 10/27/2007 3:42:08 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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Not to beat a dead horse, but sweet corn and yellow dent corn aren’t the same thing. You would grind your teeth off eating #2 yellow corn.


54 posted on 10/29/2007 5:03:09 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: eyedigress
Making petrol out of it will cause it

Are you sure? Have you considered what makes the crops they grow so worthless? It is, in general, food donations by the west, the US in particular as well as global abundance of food stuffs. Scarcity will drive the price up and their crops will have some value. They won't be so poor thereafter.

55 posted on 10/29/2007 5:13:15 AM PDT by Malsua
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