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China not anxious for conflict: US military chief-(yet...)
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Posted on 10/27/2007 5:08:34 PM PDT by Flavius

WASHINGTON - THE top US military official called for continued engagement with China, saying he did not think Beijing was anxious to get into a conflict with the United States.

(Excerpt) Read more at straitstimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; war

1 posted on 10/27/2007 5:08:35 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: TigerLikesRooster; JACKRUSSELL; cripplecreek; AuntB

This could change if China continues to get its way on trade agreements and technology transfers from greedy American corporations.


2 posted on 10/27/2007 5:10:46 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: Flavius
WASHINGTON - THE top US military official called for continued engagement with China, saying he did not think Beijing was anxious to get into a conflict with the United States.

The real question is not whether China is anxious to get into a conflict with the U.S. today.  The real question is who is China preparing to fight down the road?

If this military leader doesn't understand the proper questions, then he isn't the proper person to have in charge.

The United States and it's allies need to stop funding the military industrial complex of the People's Republic of China.

When China finally does the inevitable, I fully support our federal government going back to see who supported it's build-up, trying them for treason, and hanging them from the neck until dead.

If our troops are going to die on the battlefield, and they are going to, then I think it appropriate that those who brought that about to suffer the same fate across the board.

China has one goal today.  It is world domination.  May God have mercy on those who are aiding it today.  I sure as hell won't!

3 posted on 10/27/2007 5:20:45 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We yen to be numba one. We find Crintons to be vewy good people. Worth every penny.)
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To: Flavius
Of course China doesn't want to get into a military conflict with the USA - it can't win just yet ...
4 posted on 10/27/2007 5:33:08 PM PDT by Ken522
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5 posted on 10/27/2007 6:10:35 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Flavius

Great. Let’s just keep waiting until they are anxious, shall we? We’re talking about a quarter of the Earth’s human population here. With the help of the Capitalist World they have become the largest industrialized nation. Thanks to the Clintons, they have the technology. For every missile the U.S. can manufacture, China can manufacture 1000. Once they are anxious to fight (aka prepared and ready), the West and perhaps mankind itself will disappear in the deluge.

The time to defeat those who wish to fight against Western culture and capitalism is now, not “when they are anxious” to fight.

Does one let a pack of wild dogs grow and menace the Village until it presents a “real challenge”, or does one destroy it on sight?

Western democratic nations are the best places in the World to live. They must not be destroyed and replaced from simple lack of the slapdown... Now.


6 posted on 10/27/2007 6:17:30 PM PDT by Melinator (Bill the Butcher had it right.)
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To: Flavius

The absolute horror of a conflict with China is almost unimaginable to most Americans, because they cannot grasp the astounding scale of it all.

This is because China has a mind-boggling ace in the hole, an incredible number of people. Theoretically, China could field an ill equipped army of 300 Million men. And if the battle remains a conventional one, how do you fight that?

Few know that America almost lost the Korean War by being overwhelmed with sheer numbers of Chinese enemy. We were spared this ignominious defeat only because their side was smitten with hemorrhagic smallpox, that killed and disabled vast numbers of their soldiers. Otherwise, we would have lost, despite our far superior technology.

MacArthur faced the yellow horde across the Yalu River, but even he assumed that the Chinese would not be willing to suffer mass casualties. But when the Chinese were marshaling to attack, he quickly realized that unless he used nuclear weapons, his forces were in grave danger. But he was prohibited from doing so.

Today, America’s first assumption about a US-China war is that it would be a naval war. And beyond that, an air war. But in practical terms, there is a strong possibility that eventually the US would face a need for a ground invasion.

Granted, our weapons today are amazingly lethal. But how do you demand of a US army Captain that he personally order the death of a million enemy? And that all of his peers do the same?

Do we have enough explosive in our entire conventional inventory to do that? To kill vast numbers of half starved men, most of who only have a rifle and a few bullets, if that, and only eat a small ball of rice every few days?

But unless you do, it has long been a Chinese military principle that vast numbers of common rats can overwhelm a mighty dragon, if they attack as one.

Few Americans have heard of the Taiping Rebellion, a Chinese civil war, perhaps the second bloodiest conflict in human history after World War II. It was recorded that after some of the battles of that war, a five square mile area was so littered with bodies that no place within could a person step on the ground. Both sides were willing to commit vast numbers of people to face certain death.

The one saving grace that may prevent our ever having to fight China is India. If those two nations fight each other first, there will be astounding carnage, but it might save America from having to experience the horror.


7 posted on 10/27/2007 6:55:02 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: Flavius

Not til after the olympics.


8 posted on 10/28/2007 4:21:57 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (I am a proud anti-invasion racist!)
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To: Popocatapetl

The Chinese have both numbers and Technology..They have developed some excellent weapons & weapons platforms themselves from many sources.

However their greatest advantage today is found in their close adherence to Sun Tzu’s Art of War and the Thirty Six Stratagems.

Their doctrine calls for expending 10x the amount on spys/saboteurs then they spend on their overt military.

They do and while our A$$hat elected/appointed officials, GQ Generals and Admirals are too lazy, ignorant and selfish to do the job required of them to keep America Free.

W


9 posted on 10/28/2007 5:00:31 AM PDT by WLR (Armed Staff on School Campus. Build the Fence, Iran delenda est)
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To: Flavius

On the FR, it seems preferable that China would be anxious for a fight and go to war with the US. Why would anyone want this?


10 posted on 10/29/2007 8:59:50 AM PDT by ponder life
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To: Melinator
The time to defeat those who wish to fight against Western culture and capitalism is now, not “when they are anxious” to fight.

Is it possible, though, that in the future, China will be more civilized than the West? And that it will be China that will be defending freedom?

11 posted on 10/29/2007 9:05:55 AM PDT by ponder life
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To: ponder life

Sure, if you want your family and children to be displaced and destroyed by them now, it is entirely possible that they might become a more benevolent state in the far future.


12 posted on 10/29/2007 6:02:17 PM PDT by Melinator (Bill the Butcher had it right.)
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