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Republican Thompson says effort to recognize same-sex marriage a 'judge-made controversy'
The Amarillo Globe-News ^ | Stephen Frothingham

Posted on 10/29/2007 7:04:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
a discourse on federalism

I must have missed the "discourse." I think Fred uses federalism as the lazy man's out. No sense being up to speed on anything. It's all up to the states! All he has to do is cut ribbons and tell jokes. What a great country!

21 posted on 10/29/2007 8:02:02 PM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: Bobbisox

I hope you are right about that. This country needs a man like him. If fRudy gets the nomination, we are screwed.


22 posted on 10/29/2007 8:02:33 PM PDT by tear gas
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To: George from New England

New Englanders just don’t get Southern humor. Way to up tight up there.


23 posted on 10/29/2007 8:09:06 PM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?" --Greg Adams--Brownsville, TX --On the other Front Line)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

>> would let states decide whether to sanction [soviet] unions.

Fred’s right. But with all the lead toxic toys coming from China, I’m not sure it’s the Soviets we need to worry about.


24 posted on 10/29/2007 8:17:03 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: Huck
Fred didn't invent federalism in the USA.

The Founders invented federalism in the USA.

You got a problem with Fred promoting federalism, take it up with Madison, Hamilton and Jay.

Btw, Reagan was a big supporter of federalism too.

President Reagan`s Executive Order #12612: Federalism: October 26, 1987:

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and laws of the United States of America, and in order to restore the division of governmental responsibilities between the national government and the States that was intended by the Framers of the Constitution and to ensure that the principles of federalism established by the Framers guide the Executive departments and agencies in the formulation and implementation of policies, it is hereby ordered as follows:

Sec. 2.:
(a) Federalism is rooted in the knowledge that our political liberties are best assured by limiting the size and scope of the national government.

25 posted on 10/29/2007 8:18:46 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Huck
Oh its true.

The Supreme Court of MA order the legislature to make a law that would allow gays to marry.

They refused.

So in rides Mitt Romney to the rescue and orders county clerks to issue gay people marriage licenses.

He would have been a hero if he would have just ignored the SC. There is nothing they could have done.

The leg. is the one who is supposed to make law. Not the SC or the governor.

26 posted on 10/29/2007 8:22:45 PM PDT by JRochelle (Rudy employs a pedophile, Alan Placa.)
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To: JRochelle

He is NOT mistaken. He said no governor signed of on LEGISLATION.

Romney just blindly did what a court “ordered”. He should have asked them how they were going to enforce their decree.


27 posted on 10/29/2007 8:25:43 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: Huck

Try reading Fred’s statement again. It is NOT an error.


28 posted on 10/29/2007 8:27:01 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: Reagan Man
I'm not knocking federalism, and I don't need a lesson on it. Fred Thompson isn't fit to clean Madison's stables. He uses federalism as a rationale for not knowing much about anything.

It's similar to the manager with no expertise or understanding of what he's managing who adopts a strong adherence to hands-off managing. He's likely to go on about how he doesn't micromanage. Like he has a choice.

And just as I don't have a problem with federalism, I don't have a problem with not micromanaging. But it's not hard to tell when it's just a dodge.

29 posted on 10/29/2007 8:27:06 PM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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30 posted on 10/29/2007 8:28:02 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: Politicalmom

According to the other poster, Romney signed off on gay marriage. If that’s true, Fred missed a golden opportunity there. But hey, that’s all details, right? Fred’s not a details guy. All he has to do is cut ribbons, crack jokes, and look presidential. His people will handle the nasty business of governing. Right?


31 posted on 10/29/2007 8:29:03 PM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: Huck

Fred was making another point at the time, that legislatures aren’t imposing this on states because they know that the vast majority don’t want it.

Just because YOU think he should have gone another direction with his comments, doesn’t make you right.


32 posted on 10/29/2007 8:36:19 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: Huck

Has Fred been elected yet? Who says anyone has to get used to anything yet?


33 posted on 10/29/2007 8:38:58 PM PDT by rodeo-mamma
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To: Politicalmom

Oh wait. i forgot. You’re a fredhead. Never mind.


34 posted on 10/29/2007 8:41:05 PM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: Huck

I don’t care if you don’t like Fred. I do care that you run around lying about his politics and questioning his integrity, veracity and his intellect. Instead of showing us how cynical you can be, try debating the issue.

Modern federalism is all about limiting the size and scope of the federal government and returning power to the states. Fred has promoted federalism his entire political career. In the 2008 campaign, Fred`s advancing federalism is an issue that matters to most conservatives.


35 posted on 10/29/2007 8:41:48 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: rodeo-mamma
Has Fred been elected yet? Who says anyone has to get used to anything yet?

No. And I don't expect him too. So far he seems to be a lousy candidate. Sad but true. That's my point. For anyone with eyes open who had any hope that Fred would rise, get used to being disappointed by what you see. The others are in denial.

36 posted on 10/29/2007 8:42:30 PM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: Huck

I am getting a little tired of his Federalism excuse, I really don’t find it inspiring, plus I notice he uses it whenever he has an opinion that I disagree with. We did have a civil war, I believe that everyone has agreed that this is the United States of America. Fred acts as if the Federal Government is a 4 letter word, well if that’s the case, then why does he want to be President of the United States? He should go home and run for Governor instead.


37 posted on 10/29/2007 8:42:34 PM PDT by rodeo-mamma
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To: George from New England
“Soviet Union?” Thompson responded.

Love this response.

It was perfect.

38 posted on 10/29/2007 8:43:02 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: George from New England

That read to me like he was making Fred out to be a dunderhead, when the case was the gay mumbled it to him and he had to clarify what he heard....just to get this particular response.

“Look, he’s a fossil-conservative! Still going off about the Soviet Union and communism! Heck, he probably thinks it’s still the cold war!”

That’s how I see it here.


39 posted on 10/29/2007 8:47:16 PM PDT by swatbuznik
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To: rwfromkansas
Good grief. I support Fred, but he sounds like a bumbling moron.

Soviet Union????

“I would not support that.”

That is his eloquent response.

One-liners?????

This is really frightening.

It was as equally frightening for the Cultural Marxists in the audience...

(Cultural Marxism = Soviet Union)

40 posted on 10/29/2007 8:48:16 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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