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Lawmaker says give worker ID cards to state’s illegal immigrants[MN]
Forum Communications Company ^ | 29 Oct 2007 | Carolyn Lange

Posted on 10/29/2007 11:36:44 PM PDT by BGHater

WILLMAR — Sen. Joe Gimse, R-Wilmar, said he’d like to see Minnesota offer worker ID cards to illegal immigrants.

Doing so would allow “hard-working” undocumented immigrants who are already living here to get “out of the shadows” and work at businesses that need, and want, them.

The Willmar Republican said employer-sponsored identification cards would remove the “criminal aspect” of being here to work.

It would also reduce identity theft because illegal immigrants could use their own identity to get a job legitimately while they work toward becoming legal citizens.

“They’re working hard in our state and we need them here,” Gimse said. “My hope is that this eliminates a lot of the need for illegal activity.”

Gimse, who met privately with community leaders last month in Willmar to discuss immigration issues, said he was shocked with the amount of identity theft that happens when illegal immigrants try to get jobs here.

Making worker IDs available would “stop the aggravated forgery, the ID theft and the related problems that go along with it because these people just want to come here work,” Gimse said.

He said businesses are “doing everything they can to make good hiring decisions” but forged documents are “so sophisticated” that it’s difficult to tell the fake ones from the real ones.

Gimse said if employers question documents, or don’t hire someone because they question the legitimacy of documents, they can be scrutinized for racial profiling. “They’re between a rock and a hard spot.”

Under his plan, undocumented workers could use the IDs to get a job, obtain a driver’s license and be given two years to become legal citizens. If the state had worker IDs, Gimse said he would support the Dream Act that would allow illegal immigrants to pay in-state rates to attend state colleges and universities.

In response to critics who say illegal immigrants should be deported, Gimse said there is “no practical method of rounding them up and sending them back.” And besides, said Gimse, immigrants are a “valuable asset and a valuable part of our community.”

Gimse said the worker ID plan will be one of the proposals he would like to put in the hopper when the Legislature convenes in February. He said other document security options, like driver’s licenses that incorporate digital biometric features such as fingerprints, would be another document security measure to consider.

Gimse will also propose that a working group, called the Minnesota Legislative Caucus on Immigration, be created to gather information and help resolve issues with illegal immigration.

He also wants the House and Senate to create standing committees on immigration.

The Legislature “must become engaged in the immigration debate immediately,” he said. “We need to stop burying our head in the sand and start taking some action on this front.”

He said the Legislature currently has “no platform” to discuss immigration issues. Having a standing committee would provide that venue for discussion and action. The committee could also advocate for immigrants, Gimse said.

By rights, Gimse said the federal government should be solving problems with illegal immigration but have failed to do so. “But we can’t stand idly by while they’re in gridlock,” he said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: aliens; cards; id; illegal; immigrantlist; immigration
Sen. Joe Gimse, R-Wilmar
1 posted on 10/29/2007 11:36:46 PM PDT by BGHater
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“...while they work toward becoming legal citizens.”

So, Sen. Joe A**hat already believes illegal should be put on a path to citizenship.


2 posted on 10/29/2007 11:40:51 PM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: BGHater
The Willmar Republican said employer-sponsored identification cards would remove the “criminal aspect” of being here to work.

A fine example of "begging the question."
3 posted on 10/29/2007 11:53:38 PM PDT by ruination
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To: BGHater
http://www.voiac.org/

What is VOIAC?
VOIAC is a registry and data base for Victims of Illegal Alien Crime.

He just wants to aid and abet criminals, which makes him a criminal.

4 posted on 10/29/2007 11:56:26 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: Bogtrotter52
The Willmar Republican said employer-sponsored identification cards would remove the “criminal aspect” of being here to work. being criminal.
5 posted on 10/30/2007 12:04:10 AM PDT by Shimmer
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So what will the card say on it? Illegal alien? Will they have to get shots and a health checkup? Will there be a criminal background check? Will they be able to get a drivers license? Will they be charged for back taxes? How will they pay their taxes? Will they be able to deduct their family down in Mexico? Will they be able to deduct their girlfriend and kids up here? Will they be required to get an education or are we going to take advantage of their ignorance? Will they be allowed to buy guns? Will they have to show that they are established here or are they recent immigrants? Will their families be allowed to come up here and get an “Illegal Alien” card? Will they have to pledge allegiance to America? Will they have to pay retribution to the people whose I.D. they have ruined? Will they be investigated for I.D. fraud? Will their new I.D. be shared with the federal government? Will their I.D. have their current home address on it? Will they have to list their current cell phone number? Is it really possible to hunt someone down with using their cell phone? Will the people that have had their I.D. stolen be notified that they have their I.D. back? Will they be told who stole it? Somehow I doubt that illegal aliens are even ignorant enough to give out their personal information.


6 posted on 10/30/2007 2:32:55 AM PDT by Haddit (Hunter is still the Best)
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To: BGHater; Bogtrotter52; ruination; HuntsvilleTxVeteran; Shimmer; Haddit
Under his plan, undocumented workers could use the IDs to get a job, obtain a driver’s license

And, using the driver’s license, they would be able to walk over to the next window and apply for a voter registration.

And, using the voter registration, they would be able to vote.

And, being able to vote, they would automatically become "a constituency" -- which "our" politicians would then whore themselves out to please.

This is how a cancer consumes the victim from within.

Kiss your country goodbye. The conversion is nearly complete. Hola, Amexica!

7 posted on 10/30/2007 4:36:24 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: BGHater
"Doing so would allow “hard-working” undocumented immigrants who are already living here to get “out of the shadows” and work at businesses that need, and want, them"

So, I guess while we're at it and SO concerned about how our laws are the real problem - forcing those poor 'ol illegals to be criminals and all - we need to bring every pedophile, rapist, arsonist, murderer, tax evader and other sort of criminal "out of the shadows" too. It's only fair, after all, and since this is really all about how being fair trumps the law. It's just a natural progression of that thought process. I personally do not plan to pay any taxes of any kind to this government so I, too, an coming "out of the shadows" and I know that my personal situation trumps any possible law that the government may want to level at me. After all, NO HUMAN BEING IS ILLEGAL! Right? Oh, and anyone who says different is a racist, or at least a "nativist".

As for "The businesses that need and want them", I propose that since those businesses demand cheap illegal labor with which to drive down my wages, we simply need to bring in unsupervised and unrestricted illegal goods from offshore out of the shadows for we consumers who "need and want them". Whats good for the employer looks even better for the consumer. If the needs of business trump our laws then MY personal needs trump both our laws and the needs of business. It's only fair, right?

This guy is no conservative, thats for sure. What a scumbag.

8 posted on 10/30/2007 4:47:05 AM PDT by Carbonado
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This guy is such a RINO he should have an ivory tusk in place of his nose!


9 posted on 10/30/2007 5:04:18 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Hunter and Tancredo in '08! La Raza - the PLO of the Western Hemisphere)
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this a-hole wants worker ID cards for the illegals...the a-hole in NY wants drivers licenses for them...all the lib/dems want sanctuary cities for them...the church gives them sanctuary and calls for their protection....

and it is all sanctioned by jorge bush lib/dems and no cajones repulicans determine to destroy the US in favor of a norte america turd world nation socialist welfare society!!!


10 posted on 10/30/2007 6:31:18 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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11 posted on 10/30/2007 9:24:39 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: BGHater
Doing so would allow “hard-working” undocumented immigrants who are already living here to get “out of the shadows” and work at businesses that need, and want, them. The Willmar Republican said employer-sponsored identification cards would remove the “criminal aspect” of being here to work. It would also reduce identity theft because illegal immigrants could use their own identity to get a job legitimately while they work toward becoming legal citizens.

QUISLING: a synonym for traitor, someone who collaborates with the invaders of his country.

U.S. Constitution, Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"


Invasion: \In*va"sion\, n. [L. invasio: cf. F. invasion. See Invade.] [1913 Webster]

1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.

Current federal law 8USC 1373(a) PROHIBITS SANCTUARY CITIES. It reads as follows:

"Notwithstanding any other provision of federal, state, or local law, a federal, state, or local government entity or official may not prohibit, or in any way restrict any government entity or official from sending to, or receiving from, the Immigration and Naturalization Service information regarding the citizenship or immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of any individual."

12 posted on 10/30/2007 1:51:13 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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