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The mystery of the missing $2.9 trillion
CS Monitor ^ | 29 Oct 2007 | David R. Francis

Posted on 10/30/2007 11:58:13 AM PDT by BGHater

Economists scour the US to find out why we're more in debt than the Department of Commerce says we are.

Like most people, economists love a mystery – especially if it involves not a missing person but a missing $2.9 trillion in United States debt.

That's $2.9 with 11 zeros after it.

Some words of explanation: Every quarter the Department of Commerce comes up with the US "International Investment Position." At the end of 2006, for instance, the US had a net negative position – by this measurement of international assets and liabilities – of $2.6 trillion. In other words, the country is by far the world's biggest debtor nation.

A quarter century ago, the US was the world's largest creditor nation.

The economists at Commerce count American-owned private assets in foreign nations (plants, equipment, retail outfits, property, corporate stocks and bonds, etc.), US official international reserves (gold, special drawing rights, foreign currencies), and other US assets abroad. The measurements get complicated. Then these economists count what foreigners own of American assets, looking at the same list of assets.

Subtracting the value of American international assets from what foreigners own of American assets, they come up with how much Americans are in debt to other nations and their peoples.

But if you look at the current account of the US balance of payments, which measures primarily the balance of trade, and also flows of interest and dividends, foreign aid, and other international transfers, the US should be far deeper in hock – $2.9 trillion more over the years from 1990 through 2006 than the official $2.6 trillion. Every month, the Commerce Department has reported huge deficits in trade and the broader current account. ---Snip--

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: accountants; budget; debt; economy; trillion

1 posted on 10/30/2007 11:58:14 AM PDT by BGHater
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To: BGHater

Drat! I thought I could get away with it. I’ll put it back ...


2 posted on 10/30/2007 12:00:52 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: BGHater
That's $2.9 with 11 zeros after it.

OK, folks, lets's try exactly that:

$2.9 followed by 11 zeroes:

$2.900000000000

Hmmm. Looks like a tad short of three bucks to me.

3 posted on 10/30/2007 12:02:42 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: BGHater

If they find the $2.6 trillion they should send it over to me for safe keeping. You can bet that I won’t misplace it.


4 posted on 10/30/2007 12:03:40 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: BGHater

Better check out the couch.


5 posted on 10/30/2007 12:04:27 PM PDT by BGHater (Bread and Circuses)
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To: BGHater

Check in Murtha’s mattress.


6 posted on 10/30/2007 12:06:36 PM PDT by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: BGHater

A $trillion here, a $trillion there. Pretty soon it adds up to real money.


7 posted on 10/30/2007 12:07:47 PM PDT by chrisser
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To: vetsvette
If they find the $2.6 trillion they should send it over to me for safe keeping. You can bet that I won’t misplace it.

I'd be darn careful with a billionth of that amount.

8 posted on 10/30/2007 12:08:52 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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Nigeria?

9 posted on 10/30/2007 12:11:08 PM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: BGHater

Gotta be my wife (aka “The War Dept.”). She went through about $6 trillion last year, but I’m only missing $3.1 trillion.


10 posted on 10/30/2007 12:14:34 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (...."We're the govt, and we're here to hurt."....)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Shoes or purses? You gotta adjust your budget. Try a veto?


11 posted on 10/30/2007 12:15:45 PM PDT by BGHater (Bread and Circuses)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Sounds like the folks at the Monitor need to retake either remedial mathematics or actual courses in copy editing and proper English grammar.


12 posted on 10/30/2007 12:17:28 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * U.Va. Engineering * Go Hoos! * Fred Thompson 2008)
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To: BGHater

It’s called graft.


13 posted on 10/30/2007 12:17:51 PM PDT by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: Izzy Dunne

Ten cents short in fact, with a high degree of scientific accuracy.


14 posted on 10/30/2007 12:19:22 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Izzy Dunne

Lol!!!


15 posted on 10/30/2007 12:19:59 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: BGHater
Subtracting the value of American international assets from what foreigners own of American assets, they come up with how much Americans are in debt to other nations and their peoples.

I'm sure we'll be forgiven the debt, just as we've forgiven trillions in debts to us from poorer nations.

/s>

16 posted on 10/30/2007 12:20:14 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: BGHater
I got my Billion.

No, really it came in the mail. I thought it was just a clerical error in my tax return. I was going to return it (if the government asked). Or it could have been a government program to help the handicap (I’m bald. A true victim)

Or as they say in Washington “ a billion here, a billion there, pretty soon it adds up!”

17 posted on 10/30/2007 12:23:00 PM PDT by truemiester (If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years)
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To: BGHater

Somebody post the U.S.S Odessy from Stargate...that’s where the cash went...

As Yoda would say.

“To build those space battle cruisers, expensive it is...hmmmm”


18 posted on 10/30/2007 12:26:23 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
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To: Redleg Duke
Check in Murtha’s mattress.

Or Jefferson's freezer.

19 posted on 10/30/2007 12:29:49 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: BGHater
A quarter century ago, the US was the world's largest creditor nation.

That went over the cliff, same as American leadership in the past 25 years.

More evidence the U.S. government should be dramatically slashed and reduced in size before they're policies and incompetence completely bankrupt the country.

20 posted on 10/30/2007 12:34:19 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: BGHater
The $2.9 trillion is not missing, it’s in my mattress.

Come and get me Copper!

21 posted on 10/30/2007 12:34:55 PM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: BGHater
"Some words of explanation: Every quarter the Department of Commerce comes up with the US "International Investment Position." At the end of 2006, for instance, the US had a net negative position – by this measurement of international assets and liabilities – of $2.6 trillion. In other words, the country is by far the world's biggest debtor nation."

This is bogus chit. In fact, what it is truely saying is, "People from all over the world believe in America and they invest here. America, on the other hand, thinks the rest of the world is a poor investment and have decided to keep their money here!"

What New Jersey town does the rest of the world want us to sell to make up the difference? Camden or Newark?

22 posted on 10/30/2007 12:54:43 PM PDT by moonman
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To: Teacher317

I’m sure we’ll be forgiven the debt, just as we’ve forgiven trillions in debts to us from poorer nations.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Yep, and if not we can always count on the tooth fairy to pay it for us.


23 posted on 10/30/2007 1:29:27 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anybody still believe this is a free country?)
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To: BGHater
Isn’t this the result of running a trade deficit and foreign investment supporting the imbalance by buying our treasuries?

This never ends ok.

24 posted on 10/30/2007 1:38:28 PM PDT by zek157
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To: BGHater
That's $2.9 with 11 zeros after it.

A few more zeroes and we'd be talking about some real money.

25 posted on 10/30/2007 1:52:15 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

just remember to keep the interest you earned, and spot me $500,000 for the advice..

LOL


26 posted on 10/30/2007 2:55:40 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: BGHater

There, it pays only a 10 percent tax on its corporate profits, rather than the 38 percent corporate rate in the US. Other US firms set up affiliates in such tax havens as Barbados, the Bahamas, and Bermuda. ==

Funny:) They forget that working from Irland Microsoft pays the Irish profit tax. I do not think that its lesser the 38%.
If you work form Bermuda then you get under whole bunch of the importation quotas and dues when you import your good into country. That is why many corporations establish the affiliations in the EU or Russia for example. If you import good into russia they they tax you with the importation tax which do not exist if you produced good inside the country.

So Microsfot and others just expand thier markets going to EU or China or else. They do not have no tax profits there.


27 posted on 10/31/2007 6:50:07 AM PDT by RusIvan (ABM can be used to fend off the weakered by first strike reciprocal answer.)
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To: BGHater
The gubmint should hire Calypso "Million Man March" Louie Farrakhan to do an audit. He'll figure where the long green went in no time at all.

Leni

28 posted on 10/31/2007 6:55:38 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Three Cheers for the FRed, White and Blue !!!)
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