States likely to delay executions until ruling [signals moratorium on lethal injections]

The Christian Science Monitor ^ | November 2, 2007 edition | Warren Richey

[Former Military Chick]

Would you still believe in capital punishment if 50+% of all of those executed were innocent?

NO! But, that is not the question.

Let me rephrase, it is not the question this article discusses and those that oppose the death penalty are using cruel and inhumane punishment" to permanently stop the most extreme of punishment's, reserved for the very worst convicted felons our society has amongst us.

It is about whether lethal injection is cruel and unusual punishment.

[Former Military Chick]

The American judicial system is fundamentally broken, too many innocent poor people convicted(see the illinois death row) and too many rich people exonerated(OJ, Spector).

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It seem's there are a variety of descriptions unnecessary pain, 'excessive pain,' 'unnecessary pain,' 'substantial risk,' 'unnecessary risk,' which results in confusion. It seem's folks want to be politically correct. Let's just remove all the description's so that folks have nothing to argue about. When did it say death was ever to be painless?

You stated "The pain involved in the death penalty is less important to me than the way in which it is chosen." So how would you want the method to be chosen? In some cases the state has allowed the condemned the choice of method of execution, Gary Gilmore chose a firing squad as his execution method. Another chose the gallows'. Of course in recent years the accepted choice was lethal injection with a few states still allowing the inmate to choose between injection and the chair.

We can certainly start another thread discussing "our broken judicial system." I would love to see the appeals process move more quickly. The system in CA seem's to go on and on, some on death row have lived longer than the victim whom they murdered. Again, a discussion for a different thread.

[He Rides A White Horse]

Some would say that lethal injection followed by a lullaby is cruel and unusual punishment.

[dennisw]

dittos

[Dick Vomer]

You don't understand the point. Answer the question first.

You've never been around prisons........you don't understand the "point".

[ketsu]

NO! But, that is not the question.

Let me rephrase, it is not the question this article discusses and those that oppose the death penalty are using cruel and inhumane punishment" to permanently stop the most extreme of punishment's, reserved for the very worst convicted felons our society has amongst us.

It is about whether lethal injection is cruel and unusual punishment.

I wasn't referring to the article I was talking about the poster's editorializing.

As I stated above, cruel and unusual punishment is less important to me(beheading is neither cruel nor unusual for the punished IMO, but since execution is now a spectator sport the onlookers prefer something less grisly) as the ability to be sure that the executed are actually guilty.

[ketsu]

You've never been around prisons........you don't understand the "point".

By all means, enlighten me with you great wisdom. I want to know of this "point" of which you speak.

[Dick Vomer]

Your post seems to imply that the innocent are being sent to their deaths and that the number could be "significant". I've worked in clinics during school that processed prisoners from Dallas that were headed for Ellis and Goree units.

That's my "great wisdom", working on them and with them.

Just an FYI for you, it isn't like "Shawshank Redemption" or "the Longest Yard", "Cool Hand Luke" or even the "Birdman from Alcatraz". These guys would chew you up for giggles. They'd chew me up also unless the boys with the shields, sticks and spray were around. Are you Caucasian? Cause then you'd be the "minority" with little hope unless you were Aryan or Folk Nation.

There are rogue DA's, bad cops and crappy labs, but if you somehow end up with a rap sheet in this country, you've done it the old fashioned way..... you earned it.

[Dick Vomer]

oooopss, just read your posts. Nevermind what I posted.

Sorry for the bother.