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Cops: Stickup teen says he meant no harm
Boston Herald ^ | 11/3/07 | Jessica Fargen

Posted on 11/03/2007 7:53:09 AM PDT by Bluestateredman

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To: Bluestateredman

Great comment from you and a stupid remark by the DA.


21 posted on 11/03/2007 8:29:14 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

He probably is over six foot and looks like a grown man....can’t label him a teenager then show a pic that defies that image.


22 posted on 11/03/2007 8:30:06 AM PDT by tioga
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To: Bluestateredman
Once again, an illegal gun has struck down an innocent family man

Fool. Not only is the statement factually inaccurate, it removes responsibility for the deed from the criminal and places it on something else. That's not how justice is supposed to be done.
23 posted on 11/03/2007 8:30:53 AM PDT by JamesP81
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To: notpoliticallycorewrecked
So sorry to point this out to you, but that all changed in 1972, when they changed the status of adulthood from 21 to 18. I remember it well.

Doesn't matter. Eighteen is still the teen years. So is nineteen. It's just simple English.

24 posted on 11/03/2007 8:38:23 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: raybbr

“Doesn’t matter. Eighteen is still the teen years. So is nineteen. It’s just simple English.”

Technically, that is accurate. Show up at a “teen dance” at 19 and see what happens, though. ;)


25 posted on 11/03/2007 8:45:44 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: SandyInSeattle
******I think that it is safe to say that the article is using the teen reference to drum up sympathy for Mr. Johnson and to give the impression that he shouldn’t be held responsible for his actions considering his “tender age.” ******

I agree.

When I first saw the heading and read the word “teen,” my first thought was a young person. I know that 18 is a teenager. I also know that 18 year elders can vote and can join the military. For years, 18, 19, and 20 year elders have been doing their darnest to be allowed to drink.

As far as I’m concerned he may be a teen, he must still be charged for what he did as an adult.

26 posted on 11/03/2007 8:49:54 AM PDT by GOPologist (Btry. B, 228 FA Bn.-155mm Howitzer. WW 2 (Europe))
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To: SandyInSeattle
Illegal gun? What is an illegal gun?

It is an interesting statement. The gun is actually a legal gun (not an automatic or one that is defined as "assault"). What is correct is the possession of that weapon is unlawful by that individual.

If it is your goal to show that the problem of individuals committing crimes with weapons can be solved by sanctioning weapons, you must convince the population the weapon itself is the perpetrator.

27 posted on 11/03/2007 8:54:07 AM PDT by Damifino (The true measure of a man is found in what he would do if he knew no one would ever find out.)
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To: Bluestateredman
"pleaded not guilty to armed assault with intent to murder, armed robbery and firearm charges."

Yes, I suppose in lib havens he could justify that plea by his hurt feelings and that he, told police he never intended to hurt the owner.

"Suffolk District Attorney Daniel Conley called the shooting a tragedy. “Once again, an illegal gun has struck down an innocent family man, and once again a young man may pay for his actions for the rest of his life,” he said.

Yeah, yeah. Once again a moron speaks for the liberals.

28 posted on 11/03/2007 9:19:00 AM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: Bluestateredman
>>>Johnson’s attorney asked for $10,000 cash bail saying her client had community ties and no defaults on his record.<<<

A second crime will be committed if they let this thug out on only $10,000 bail.

$10K bail for armed robbery and attempted murder - give me a break! Then we spend $200,000 and two years trying to track him down.

29 posted on 11/03/2007 9:19:36 AM PDT by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out Of Qurans)
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To: notpoliticallycorewrecked
Many students are over-age, struggling academically, or otherwise at risk in the traditional school system. Despite the high-risk profile of these students, over 90 percent of them successfully earn their high school diplomas.

One of my sons-in-law teaches at a similar school in New Hampshire. It's a kind of last chance for these kids. At least some of them are liable to go to jail at any time. Risky for the teachers, too, but he does well, and I think they respect him.

If it's done right, it may make a big difference in the lives of many of these kids, but there will always be some who will screw up, like this one.

Still, it's worth giving them the chance. You can't just jail them until they choose that course.

30 posted on 11/03/2007 9:31:48 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: notpoliticallycorewrecked

This seems to be a common frame of mind. On “48 hours”, the true crime show, they showed the confession of a man who had shot a business owner in cold blood. He actually said that he didn’t think that “one little bullet” would kill him.


31 posted on 11/03/2007 9:32:17 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Bluestateredman

The victim is dead: http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/11/03/pizza_shop_owner_dies_a_day_after_shooting/


32 posted on 11/03/2007 9:36:29 AM PDT by Andy'smom
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To: Bluestateredman

“Poor kid, he didn’t mean to hurt anyone.”

Well, as I kept telling my kids as they grew up “actions have consequences.” It’s a shame this kid’s father did not. Now he had committed an action that will keep him in prison a long time.

And it does not matter whether he “meant” it.


33 posted on 11/03/2007 9:39:01 AM PDT by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: Bluestateredman

Sickening. That DA should be fired on the spot. His comments are so idiotic, you’d have to be a Massachussettes native to fall for it.


34 posted on 11/03/2007 9:43:11 AM PDT by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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To: Bluestateredman

FR *bookmark*


35 posted on 11/03/2007 9:43:58 AM PDT by Dad yer funny (FoxNews is morphing , and not for the better ,... internal struggle? Its hard to watch)
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To: notpoliticallycorewrecked

You are seeking to make an argument that you can’t support. 18 is still a teenager and an adult.
Some teenagers under the age of 18 are tried as adults but they are still teenagers.
There is much more meaningful information in the article than the arrestee being called a teenager. I think the D.A. spouting inane comments is more important.


36 posted on 11/03/2007 9:50:28 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: Bluestateredman

“Johnson’s attorney asked for $10,000 cash bail saying her client had community ties and no defaults on his record.”...These sack of crap lawyers put me on the floor every time!...great comedy act. I got community ties too, I buy gas at 7-11 also.


37 posted on 11/03/2007 9:52:36 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Well, guess he will claim he felt his life was threatened by the Pizza Shop owner chasing him. Which is why he took his undocumented gun and discharged it.
While the teen ager will get housing and medical the rest of his life (or hopefully at least most of it), I guess the shop owner will get a hefty bill to repair the damage the teenager did. At the very least, the citizens of Boston will be able to pony up to pay ALL the bills, then some bleeding heart lib wants to put him back on the street...That makes sense (I guess) cause he will have to ‘earn’ more money to get a big name lawyer....


38 posted on 11/03/2007 10:03:23 AM PDT by xrmusn
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To: Bluestateredman
Suffolk District Attorney Daniel Conley called the shooting a tragedy. “Once again, an illegal gun has struck down an innocent family man, and once again a young man may pay for his actions for the rest of his life,” he said.

Aww. Poor little tyke. Maybe the big, mean Massachusetts DA will show a little compassion and not take it to trial. Make the family of the guy who died trying to defend his life and property pay compensation for the gunman's hurt feelings.

39 posted on 11/03/2007 10:18:33 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (No buy China!!)
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To: Bluestateredman
I almost wish I was a subscriber to the Boston Herald so that I could give them a call and tell them that I was cancelling because of this moronically biased article.

Perhaps there is a Freeper subscriber who would care to do this. It's insane to subscribe to these liberal rags, paying them hundreds of dollars per year to tell lies and undermine our unalienable right to keep and bear arms.

I'm listening...

40 posted on 11/03/2007 10:52:43 AM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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